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re: Does making abortion criminal blur the lines of church and state?
Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:49 pm to dkreller
Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:49 pm to dkreller
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you just used the same thing to point out a "major flaw" in his argument
you must have a fundamental misunderstanding of what a false premise is.
he posted
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100% chance those who were aborted, would be against abortion.
I said we can determine that is not true based on numbers that we have. There are millions of aborted fetuses every year. Over 1 in every 15,000 people commit suicide every year.
I'm not sure where you think my false premise is but this doesn't fit the bill
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:49 pm to sgallo3
What am I missing? The act you linked is related to juvenile delinquent acts and prosecution of juvenile. I was skimming, so I might have missed it.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:54 pm to sgallo3
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They could have a stance before they were murdered
They could. But that wasn’t your argument.
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Also i find a major flaw in your statement that 100% of aborted fetuses wouldve been against abortion
I didn’t make that statement. You aren’t even capable of keeping up with the conversation. Low IQ.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:55 pm to sgallo3
Well you weren’t clear on what was the false premise. You seemed to glance over that opinion when you responded to him.
That still doesn’t change that your retort was retarded.
That still doesn’t change that your retort was retarded.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:56 pm to dkreller
Lol at your inability to argue your points without resorting to insults.
This isnt a personal issue to me. It's an exercise in state enforcement on ethical dilemmas.
This isnt a personal issue to me. It's an exercise in state enforcement on ethical dilemmas.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:57 pm to sgallo3
I insulted your statement, not you.
There’s enough people in this thread insulting you.
There’s enough people in this thread insulting you.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 5:00 pm to sgallo3
All laws are based on ethics.
That’s the huge hole in your argument.
That’s the huge hole in your argument.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 5:00 pm to dkreller
They have been brainwashed by the media into thinking the correct response to someone challenging your views is to attack them rather than embrace them in debate.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 5:04 pm to dkreller
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All laws are based on ethics.
That’s the huge hole in your argument.
I would argue this is a more accurate description
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Law is based on thousands of years of pragmatic experience telling us what's practical to administer and desirable for fairness.
I would say we have access to a vast database of information that shows it isnt practical to legislate abortion.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 5/6/22 at 5:05 pm to sgallo3
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Does making abortion criminal blur the lines of church and state?
No
Posted on 5/6/22 at 5:06 pm to sgallo3
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Does making abortion criminal blur the lines of church and state?
Never understood this line of thinking. This isn't anymore a religious issue than any other law. The only people that think this is an injection of religion belief into law are either stupid or... stupid.
It is really is this simple.
- Murder should be illegal
- science proved long ago when you became you.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 5:09 pm to sgallo3
I agree with that as well but you cannot say that ethics do not have a severe weight in defining laws.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 5:17 pm to dkreller
Yes thats definitely true
Posted on 5/6/22 at 5:49 pm to sgallo3
Murder is murder. It has nothing to do with religion. It just happens to be that people who don’t agree with killing babies are religious 
Posted on 5/6/22 at 6:08 pm to sgallo3
Imagine arguing 8 pages for the right to kill children in order to own the cons like Sgallo3 is doing. Yikes.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 6:23 pm to Nurbis
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I am non-religious and I think abortion is wrong. It is killing somebody and more so, the majority do it because that life would be a nuisance to them. It shouldn't require religion to see that is fricked up.
I agree. I'm atheist. I'm against abortion. Without saying too much, our society values life. If a woman is murdered and is found with child, then the murderer is charged with a double homicide.
Additionally, personal responsibility is in play here. Men and women have the ability to create life. If they don't want a child, then they have a responsibility to utilize some form of contraception.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 5/6/22 at 6:34 pm to Dicken Nuggets
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I agree. I'm atheist. I'm against abortion. Without saying too much, our society values life. If a woman is murdered and is found with child, then the murderer is charged with a double homicide.
Additionally, personal responsibility is in play here. Men and women have the ability to create life. If they don't want a child, then they have a responsibility to utilize some form of contraception.
you sound like a reasonable sort, what steps would you authorize our police departments/sheriffs to take to restrict a woman's access to buying abortion pills online and taking them in her home or flying somewhere abortion is legal (assuming you live in Louisiana)?
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:04 pm to sgallo3
Thanks. Hadn’t seen that. Looks like it makes giving an abortion a crime unless it is medically necessary for the health of the mom. But the pregnant woman whose pregnancy is terminated cannot be charged criminally. Am I reading that right?This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:33 pm to sgallo3
What about this decision makes abortion illegal??
All this does is reverse a stupidly decided decision made a half century ago.
Now it is up to the states to decide how to regulate abortions = just like the US Constitution provides.
All this does is reverse a stupidly decided decision made a half century ago.
Now it is up to the states to decide how to regulate abortions = just like the US Constitution provides.
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