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re: Does JBE win re-election?
Posted on 11/14/19 at 9:45 pm to doubleb
Posted on 11/14/19 at 9:45 pm to doubleb
Again a talking point that is not correct , see my response earlier I am tired of linking stuff but one such study that documents what I said was done by 247 wall I think it is called . Nice clean study with easy to read metrics to rate size of state government
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Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:04 pm to JKChesterton
U guys can red flag me all u want but none of u can empirically refute what I said not ONE
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:16 pm to JKChesterton
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Not true , economist measure size of state government as the ratio of state spending to GDP. Louisiana is 37 of the 50 states which means we are at the top end of the lower Third in size of state government. do a search on size of state government to GDP as there are economic studies that empirically document how LA ranks relative to other states.
I never mentioned the size of state govt. I just did Edwards grew govt. at the expense of the folks.
You changed the subject.
Edwards puts government first.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:21 pm to doubleb
No how did he grow government , I provided u a measure of how Economist measure the size of government , for u to show that he grew the size of government u need to show this ratio when he took office and take the 2019 measure and take the change and then tell me that delta grew higher than the rate of inflation.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:21 pm to JKChesterton
Holy wall of bullshite Batman. That’s a lot of words to say “I’m clueless”
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:36 pm to Icansee4miles
Ur clueless what can I educate and help u with
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:57 pm to JKChesterton
Adderal..I recommend it
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:11 pm to shamrock
Don’t need it if u need it please consult ur doctor before taking it
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:17 pm to JKChesterton
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No how did he grow government , I provided u a measure of how Economist measure the size of government , for u to show that he grew the size of government u need to show this ratio when he took office and take the 2019 measure and take the change and then tell me that delta grew higher than the rate of inflation.
Dude, he increased spending by 50% while the Louisiana economy actually shrank until about September. So unless you think inflation was in the neighborhood of 10% annually, you should rethink your position.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:55 pm to BigJim
Jim go to the 247 wall article which used the US commerce department bureau of statistics from 2018 to measure size of government in terms of spending to GDP. La is about 37th meaning 13th lowest in terms of size
Posted on 11/15/19 at 6:05 am to DeltaDoc
If Louisiana isn’t stupid then yes
Posted on 11/15/19 at 7:16 am to JKChesterton
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Jim go to the 247 wall article which used the US commerce department bureau of statistics from 2018 to measure size of government in terms of spending to GDP. La is about 37th meaning 13th lowest in terms of size
Didn't see a link.
Regardless, you said growth, not ranking. We have under any definition grown government under JBE. A lot.
Now if you are a liberal you are cool with that. That would mean more services.
But don't pretend JBE hasn't grown state government. A lot.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 7:32 am to JKChesterton
I don’t know what you read, but no where did I accuse JBE of being a criminal.
You might want to go back and read what I typed and comprehend better.
You might want to go back and read what I typed and comprehend better.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:16 am to ragincajun03
My bad, you did say fake and not a criminal. I have had so many people firing posts at me hard to keep up and keep straight what was said.
My apologies sir.
My apologies sir.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:20 am to DeltaDoc
I hope he does
Getting real sick of Rispone lying about jbe’s record and insulting this state by calling us last in everything.
Rispone needs trump to help him. He cannot do this alone. He doesn’t have the moxy. He doesn’t have plans. He just spews bumper sticker rhetoric geared for low info rednecks
Getting real sick of Rispone lying about jbe’s record and insulting this state by calling us last in everything.
Rispone needs trump to help him. He cannot do this alone. He doesn’t have the moxy. He doesn’t have plans. He just spews bumper sticker rhetoric geared for low info rednecks
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:33 am to BigJim
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Jim see links above. The first one is from 247 Wall, A New York Investing, Economic and Cybersecurity firm that writes on such topics. They use the standard Economic measurement of Size of state Government, which is measured by Economist as the ratio of Spending relative to GDP in order to standardize the measures so comparisons can be made across Governments, i.e. States, of varying Size. IThe 247 cite uses the data from the Federal Government Bureaus of Labor Statistics. All of the data used for this study is from Trump's Administration. LA is 37th in terms of Size of Government. There is no way that LA under JBE could have grown 50% in terms of growth in Government from 2016, his first year in office, and be ranked 37th. Period
Now, again, maybe Rispone's operatives are using talking points and taking data points, not using the Professional Economic measurement of Growth and Size of Government, to get the number you are using. So if LA lets say had the smallest Government in 2016 when JBE was in office and we were ranked were Florida is, the smallest relative to Size of their Economy, and as you say he has grown Government by "50%" there is no way mathematically for us to be 37th in Size of Government.
There is also Tax data, but that data using data from several years, 2012, 2017 in some cases, 2016 in some cases and 2015 in some. Using that data for tax, LA is 46th in Tax burden relative to GDP.
Again all measures here are based on how Economist measure Size of Government and Tax burden, not how political consultants do.
Like I said, I despise Jindal, voted for him 3 times, I voted for JBE because he was not Jindal. Rispone may be a good business guy, great family guy, don't dispute that. However, he is too close to Jindal and was one of his biggest political donors. He appears to me to be somebody who will govern similar to Jindal, who again, I despise. Thus, I can't vote for Rispone. If elected, he becomes my Governor just like everyone else and I wish him well.
In summary, the narrative about JBE blowing up state government is just not correct.
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Jim see links above. The first one is from 247 Wall, A New York Investing, Economic and Cybersecurity firm that writes on such topics. They use the standard Economic measurement of Size of state Government, which is measured by Economist as the ratio of Spending relative to GDP in order to standardize the measures so comparisons can be made across Governments, i.e. States, of varying Size. IThe 247 cite uses the data from the Federal Government Bureaus of Labor Statistics. All of the data used for this study is from Trump's Administration. LA is 37th in terms of Size of Government. There is no way that LA under JBE could have grown 50% in terms of growth in Government from 2016, his first year in office, and be ranked 37th. Period
Now, again, maybe Rispone's operatives are using talking points and taking data points, not using the Professional Economic measurement of Growth and Size of Government, to get the number you are using. So if LA lets say had the smallest Government in 2016 when JBE was in office and we were ranked were Florida is, the smallest relative to Size of their Economy, and as you say he has grown Government by "50%" there is no way mathematically for us to be 37th in Size of Government.
There is also Tax data, but that data using data from several years, 2012, 2017 in some cases, 2016 in some cases and 2015 in some. Using that data for tax, LA is 46th in Tax burden relative to GDP.
Again all measures here are based on how Economist measure Size of Government and Tax burden, not how political consultants do.
Like I said, I despise Jindal, voted for him 3 times, I voted for JBE because he was not Jindal. Rispone may be a good business guy, great family guy, don't dispute that. However, he is too close to Jindal and was one of his biggest political donors. He appears to me to be somebody who will govern similar to Jindal, who again, I despise. Thus, I can't vote for Rispone. If elected, he becomes my Governor just like everyone else and I wish him well.
In summary, the narrative about JBE blowing up state government is just not correct.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:48 am to JKChesterton
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No how did he grow government , I provided u a measure of how Economist measure the size of government , for u to show that he grew the size of government u need to show this ratio when he took office and take the 2019 measure and take the change and then tell me that delta grew higher than the rate of inflation.
Look at the budget. It grew a lot mainly because of the Medicaid Expansion.
The growth in state government measured by dollars spent is right there to see.
That can’t be denied.
When he took office the state budget was (15-16) 27.2 Billion
(16-17) 29.6 Billion his first budget
(17-18) 33.5 Billion
(18-19) 34.0 Billion
The growth has very little to do with inflation. The facts are it grew a very large amount.
And while much of the growth was funded by the Feds, a large amount is state funded.
(15-16) Feds 9.256B State 17.897B
(18-19) Feds14.116B State 19.872B
Federal dollars increased almost 5 Billion in the budget, but state dollars have increased 2 Billion dollars.
Government grew any way you look at it.
Source House Fiscal Office
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This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:54 am to SlidellCajun
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You’re making an arse of yourself
Good!!!!! Been an arse for 54 years ain't about to stop now. Look I personally have zero tolerance for any fence straddling or liberal views. And I'm not wrong.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:59 am to JKChesterton
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Again all measures here are based on how Economist measure Size of Government and Tax burden,
OK if we all agree that JBE didn't grow government as you maintain, then why did he spend 7 Billion more dollars in 2019/19 than we did in 2015/2016?
Are you telling me he spent all that extra money and government did not grow? Does that mean he wasted the money? 7 Billion dollars and it was a standstill govt?
You aren't making any sense and reality is arguing about the size of government and not considering how much it costs is ridiculous. It's all about the cost.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:00 pm to DeltaDoc
Yes
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