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Do you think Trump was the first person that was illegally spied on by Obama’s FBI & DOJ?

Posted on 1/13/18 at 6:56 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/13/18 at 6:56 pm
I bet more illegal 702 FISA spying was done on other political opponents of Obama.

Criminals usually never get caught the first time. Additionally the environment under the Obama administration made it easy for the criminals at the top levels of Obama’s FBI and DOJ to hide their crimes.

We’ll find that the illegal spying was conducted on a lot more targets than just Trump. Book it.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/13/18 at 6:57 pm to
Simple answer to your question: hell no!
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
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Posted on 1/13/18 at 6:57 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/10/23 at 3:14 pm
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35954 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 6:57 pm to
More Espionage Act prosecutions than all other Presidents combined. You do the math.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/13/18 at 6:59 pm to
No. I also don't think the Obama admin was the first to illegally spy on citizens.
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 1/13/18 at 7:00 pm to
I’ve always thought that Obama had some kind of dirt on John Roberts to get him to vote for Obamacare.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39395 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 7:02 pm to
I recall it being leaked that Obama's IC spied on Merkel. Not sure about the legality of that, but what is legality among the elites when there is no risk of justice?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118677 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 7:03 pm to
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I’ve always thought that Obama had some kind of dirt on John Roberts to get him to vote for Obamacare.



Would be amazing if there is existing evidence that can prove this and it’s revealed.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
16991 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 7:08 pm to
Top-Secret FISA court documents were released last year thanks to a FOIA request. The document was compiled by the court in April, 2016 and the court outlines lots of abuses by FBI and DOJ where they were using NSA databases to illegally spy on Americans.



As you can see, the FBI was giving raw NSA intel to third parties. This so concerned Mike Rogers that he went to the court and got this whole review started.

Anyone wanna bet if one of those "contractors" was Fusion-GPS?
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 1/13/18 at 7:11 pm to
Its funny watching you Trumpkins come together in a thread. pure entertainment
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
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Posted on 1/13/18 at 7:12 pm to
Are there any programs out there that can remove the computer generated redaction’s
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
16991 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 7:13 pm to
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Are there any programs out there that can remove the computer generated redaction’s


Probably, but it would only be a guess as to what the words are. I know you can "count" the blank spaces and make guesses, but there's no way to prove your guess is correct.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/13/18 at 7:14 pm to
Funny how everyone expected Roberts to vote a certain way on Obamacare and then at the last minute, something changed...
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118677 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

As you can see, the FBI was giving raw NSA intel to third parties. This so concerned Mike Rogers that he went to the court and got this whole review started.




This is the media:


Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39395 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

Rand Paul a few months ago went on air and said he knows for a fact he was spied on.


Reporters James Rosen and Sharyl Atkisson were hacked by the Obama IC.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118677 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 7:20 pm to
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Funny how everyone expected Roberts to vote a certain way on Obamacare and then at the last minute, something changed...



That ruling was built up to determine whether Obamacare lives or dies. Funny how congress just got rid of the mandate the very aspect of Obamacare that Roberts ruled on. Obamacare should die now.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/13/18 at 7:36 pm to
Hell naw.
Posted by FinebaumsHair
Monroe, La
Member since Aug 2017
3001 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

Rand Paul a few months ago went on air and said he knows for a fact he was spied on.


Obama just wanted to know where he got his Jheri curl products from
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
GEAUX TIGERS!
Member since Sep 2007
6507 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

I bet more illegal 702 FISA spying was done on other political opponents of Obama.


Well Sara Carter & Dan Bongino just said their sources are saying there was wide-spread abuse & some of this stuff may be coming out next week.

quote:

Additionally the environment under the Obama administration made it easy for the criminals at the top levels of Obama’s FBI and DOJ to hide their crimes.


ETA: the stuff pulled by Obama Admin after 2016 election was questionable. Remember he did that "order" which opened up the ability of federal agencies to share classified information & people couldn't figure out why but everyone was suspicious?
This post was edited on 1/13/18 at 7:48 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39395 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 7:55 pm to
This is absolutely sobering information that should rock the foundation of this nation, but liberals are oddly OK with it.

Media collusion
Propaganda
Election rigging
Laundering of campaign funds
Fake protests
Spying on political enemies, reporters, even foreign allies
Using federal agencies like the FBI and IRS to squeeze political opposition
Working with adversarial foreign agents to smear political opponents.

These are all things that have happened under Obama. The modern left, by and large, is fine with this. Yet they can't handle Trumps potty mouth.
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