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re: Do we just need a dictatorship?

Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:26 pm to
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10555 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:26 pm to
I'm not following. How does a huge government show that libertarianism won't work?

I agree w/ you that we can't just change the electorate to want to understand history, economics, and the NAP. I also agree w/ you that the federal government is irredeemable. I've been a big supporter of secession for a while now.

Government has intentionally dumbed down society. Also, just the math is terrible. Do you really think one "representative" can "represent" 700k people? And the numbers only get worse for senators and the president.

Just use the Left's own "reasoning" to help them see things a little clearer. For instance, I'll say things like "yep, Californians should be able to keep all that money in their state and use it how they see fit instead of paying welfare for 'red states'". Or, I'll tell them that their support of legalizing weed is tacit support of state nullification.

This won't be an easy or quick thing, but it is working. The support for secession among both parties is higher than it's been in ages. I'm talking over 30%, which is a huge number. Just keep the messaging going, that's all.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10555 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:27 pm to
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Sure it is.



Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86332 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:29 pm to
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Sure it is. You just don’t like the results.


Yes I’m sure the vision was to use powers to suppress freedom of speech.

You really are on to something.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84576 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:30 pm to
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We were given Federalism. Do you really believe e Federalism still exists in the way it was intended.


Our current system was specifically designed to make the States less powerful after the Articles of Confederation.

So how is it not working “as intended”?
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20583 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:32 pm to
I believe it was Sula that cleaned house and then returned power after ridding the ilk. We would need something similar but the best bet is a peaceful bulkanization.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10555 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:36 pm to
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Our current system was specifically designed to make the States less powerful after the Articles of Confederation.


100% true. What a fricking mistake that was.

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So how is it not working “as intended”?


Article 1 sec 8, for instance, lists specifically what congress can spend on. If it were a catch all, then why waste time listing 18 specific things?

Another example is the federal government regulating intrastate commerce. No fricking way the Founders thought that the federal government should regulate people growing food on their own property for their own consumption.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53698 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:37 pm to
Nobody is overthrowing the Govt of the United States of America, unless you have the military capability to defeat the Armed Forces of the United States of America.

No matter what kind of civilian government the American Radical Left manage to impose on the people of this continent, the Armed Forces of the USA will defend the USA against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

No matter how totalitarian or oppressive the US govt becomes, IMHO, the Armed Forces of the USA will defend the USA against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 10:38 pm
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10555 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:42 pm to
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No matter what kind of civilian government the American Radical Left manage to impose on the people of this continent, the Armed Forces of the USA will defend the USA against all enemies, foreign and domestic.






The covid lockdowns should have opened every right wingers' eyes in America that government employees will do what they're told.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26370 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:42 pm to
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So you are admitting you love pedophilia and child grooming?


Wtf?

Posted by CauleyHog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Nov 2012
4671 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:49 pm to
What we need is a catholic constitutional monarchy with a House of Representatives.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 10:50 pm
Posted by STLJ
Member since Nov 2022
847 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:51 pm to
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catholic constitutional monarchy


How about, no.
Posted by STLJ
Member since Nov 2022
847 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:55 pm to
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CauleyHog


I know you downvoted me. Don’t be that guy.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84576 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:56 pm to
You must have found the only cocaine in Georgia without fentanyl in it
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:06 pm to
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. The problem is government run schools


parents have more to do with it than you're letting on.

Posted by Bad Lieutenant
Member since Nov 2022
64 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:07 pm to
A really cool warrior King would be nice. Especially if we got rid of guns and vehicles and went 14th century
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 11:09 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
22130 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:10 pm to
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But we don't have the electorate capable of maintaining the form of government gifted to us by the founders.


Exactly. A nation of philosophers we are not. The left has no qualms about saying "this society sucks, let's turn it into ______." That is where conservatives need to be. Articulate what you want to do and sell it instead of pleading with them to slow down.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 11:14 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:12 pm to
no.

we need more local power sharing and an informed electorate.



Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
1645 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:16 pm to
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What we need is a catholic constitutional monarchy


I thought we were against groomers?
Posted by TomBuchanan
East Egg, Long Island
Member since Jul 2019
6269 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:20 pm to
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If it gets to the point of Brazil, with all the guns, lord help us all. I think that’s the push for guns, they know it’s coming to a crisis point if they keep openly stealing elections, and cutting our main energy supply, eventually people will be starving in the streets and fending for themselves; while loaded to the teeth….. this isn’t the place for that, so I don’t know if they are pulling these strings to destroy us from within, or just hoping everyone capitulates, but scary times ahead….



They are playing with fire. Fortunately people will come for them. ex military.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 11:21 pm
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10555 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:33 pm to
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parents have more to do with it than you're letting on


The parents that were "educated" in government run schools?

I'm 45. In my school years, like everyone else my age, I was taught "what" to "think", not "how" to think.



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