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re: DO NOT ever threaten someone for risk of losing gun rights.
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:28 am to momentoftruth87
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:28 am to momentoftruth87
10 years or so ago I would have been 100% fine with such a decision. This is a crazy guy, a rather extreme individual and prosecutors (I thought) erred on the side of restraint and this guy deserves none.
But now that we see how insane some of these prosecutors can be: as in the widespread selectively prosecuting certain crimes, selectively prosecuting certain types of people, going after people based on their politics, etc. - I now can see the real danger in an opinion like this.
But now that we see how insane some of these prosecutors can be: as in the widespread selectively prosecuting certain crimes, selectively prosecuting certain types of people, going after people based on their politics, etc. - I now can see the real danger in an opinion like this.
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:28 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Just a question/experiment here: If it were known that I have significant mental health problems, and I were also known to have a couple of ARs, and I posted on Facebook that within the next 24 hours I am preparing to blow away each member of displacedbuckeye’s family……..what if anything would you like to see happen subsequent to those threats?
This post was edited on 6/21/24 at 10:30 am
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:33 am to davyjones
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:36 am to davyjones
nm
This post was edited on 6/21/24 at 10:39 am
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:36 am to davyjones
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I guess I’m missing your assertion about the lawyers. Exactly what are you insinuating about lawyers having a heyday with this moving forward?
Ambiguity. For instance, a person feels "threatened" because someone legally carrying a gun makes eye contact with them.
What happens next is now an unknown!!
This post was edited on 6/21/24 at 10:42 am
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:38 am to davyjones
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Just a question/experiment here: If it were known that I have significant mental health problems, and I were also know to have a couple of ARs, and I posted on Facebook that within the next 24 hours I am preparing to blow away each member of displacedbuckeye’s family……..what if anything would you like to see subsequent to those threats?
You should be arrested for your threat. At bail hearing prosecutor should argue you are a credible threat to murder and bail should be denied.
All sorts of things can come out from this. Perhaps as a condition of bail you agree to turn over your guns until case is resolved, etc.
Or you are found not to be a credible threat and you go home.
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:41 am to DisplacedBuckeye
So you’re simply going to go on guard duty and hope you have all the bases covered and won’t be caught slipping in any way? I’m worried for your family right now and we’re only talking about a hypothetical situation. Hell.
Another question: what’s the extent of your experience with domestic violence/abuse? I’ll say this - there’s no other situation that involves more emotion and potential loss of one’s shite (legal terminology amirite) than heated domestic problems. Which is why it’s specifically at the center of this ruling. Plus anyway I know at least Louisiana has had laws on the books for some time now that prohibit possessing firearms if you have a protective order against you. That may be the case in all states actually.
Another question: what’s the extent of your experience with domestic violence/abuse? I’ll say this - there’s no other situation that involves more emotion and potential loss of one’s shite (legal terminology amirite) than heated domestic problems. Which is why it’s specifically at the center of this ruling. Plus anyway I know at least Louisiana has had laws on the books for some time now that prohibit possessing firearms if you have a protective order against you. That may be the case in all states actually.
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:42 am to JimEverett
In the scenario I described there is absolutely no crime committed, yet.
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:42 am to davyjones
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So you’re simply going to go on guard duty
I wouldn't change a thing.
You accepting your failure is noted.
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:44 am to DisplacedBuckeye
You clearly have no personal experience with the dark side of humanity. Good for you.
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:44 am to davyjones
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Plus anyway I know at least Louisiana has had laws on the books for some time now that prohibit possessing firearms if you have a protective order against you.
Interesting that no one on this board seemed to care about it until today....
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:45 am to davyjones
I have direct experience with the worst our species has to offer. You're afraid and you're willing to give up your rights because of that fear. I am not.
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:46 am to momentoftruth87
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Why do you lose rights before court?
Trump: ‘Take the guns first, go through due process second’
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:46 am to davyjones
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Another question: what’s the extent of your experience with domestic violence/abuse? I’ll say this - there’s no other situation that involves more emotion and potential loss of one’s shite (legal terminology amirite) than heated domestic problems. Which is why it’s specifically at the center of this ruling. Plus anyway I know at least Louisiana has had laws on the books for some time now that prohibit possessing firearms if you have a protective order against you. That may be the case in all states actually.
I know that, in Illinois, when I was in Recruiting, we dealt with multiple Lautenberg cases among applicants where the individual yelled at his parents and the parents filed domestic abuse charges.
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:48 am to CGSC Lobotomy
That’s where even just a decent defense attorney comes in handy.
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:49 am to Indefatigable
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The order would be lifted once the allegation is determined to have been false, no?
Sure.
How much justice can you afford?
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:50 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Trump: ‘Take the guns first, go through due process second’
Once again you can’t be on topic it has to be about Trump and a got ya.
Keep letting others live free in that dome, boomer
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:51 am to momentoftruth87
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Once again you can’t be on topic
That is the topic, slick.
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:51 am to TrueTiger
The "if you've done nothing wrong, what are you worried about" argument from these Fudds is amazing to watch.
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:51 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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I know that, in Illinois, when I was in Recruiting, we dealt with multiple Lautenberg cases among applicants where the individual yelled at his parents and the parents filed domestic abuse charges.
This is where my BIL is currently at. He’s lucky he’s in a conservative county.
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