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re: DNI Tulsi Gabbard: Evidence of 120 biolabs in over 30 countries, including Ukraine

Posted on 6/12/26 at 5:06 pm to
Posted by Crimson K
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 5:06 pm to
So I went and read the info at your link. Some takeaways.
-Some info in the third doc about cost, contractor and issued permits for handling hazardous biomaterials. Looks like some labs were working with permits that were “in progress” rather than issued already. No idea how big of a deal that is.
-2nd slide shows locations of some facilities in Ukraine. Says over 40 built and supported; no clarification of how many built and how many supported; at least one designated for bioweapons storage, more on that in a later point
-the last slide shows types of research done and their progress; most were designated completed. Looks like they were handling and studying highly infectious diseases, some specifically said for vaccine and diagnostic research, others for “molecular characterization,” whatever that means. Also some studies for training and community outreach of different types
-the first slide talks about a specific facility establish in the 1920s that “may” have been related to Soviet era BW research. I would guess the Russians had no issues characterizing a facility they used for BW research as a BW research facility. They are technically correct in claiming it as one. The one mentioned in slide 2 had BW from the Soviets as well. The report goes on to say that the facility had some biosafety and biosecurity deficiencies and that we are working to understand the current status of pathogens. A lot of redacted parts that make things more unclear than they could be.

The accompanying press release of the ODNI says this:

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Until now, evidence regarding the full existence and funding of these laboratories had been knowingly withheld from the American people. The information surrounding the existence, history, locations and funding of these US funded biolabs has been intentionally covered up by powerful people falsely, claiming that they do not exist and accusing anyone who says otherwise to be foreign assets and traitors to America. Many of these U.S. government-funded biolabs are currently or have previously engaged in research using hazardous and highly contagious pathogens, in some cases to include dangerous Gain-of-Function research, with very little visibility or oversight


Is the bolded part true? I do not claim to know. As far as I can tell, there is no claim anywhere in the release today that supports the idea of the US funding a bioweapons lab in the sense of actively creating offensive bioweapons. It wasn’t trying to prove or disprove that fact, so it would be unfair to characterize it either way. At the same time, we were funding labs that house bioweapons (likely former Soviet ones, but it is not totally clear) and where ones had previously been produced. I suspect this is how the Russians can rightly in their minds claim we funded bioweapons labs. What was released today instead seems to focus on the cessation of funding gain of function research. I don’t know whether the docs really support that claim or not. One additional comment, the slides do point to some concerns about safety and safe handling of dangerous materials in the labs.
This post was edited on 6/12/26 at 5:24 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 5:25 pm to
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So I went and read the info at your link. Some takeaways.


It is well known that before 2014 the US was working with Russia as well to remove pathogens and sanitize these locations.

The USSR had a shitton of these biowarfare labs. Biolab doesn't mean much other than testing dog turds at the vet or dissecting frogs in high school.

Some labs were turned into other purposes. One lab in Ukraine provides pretty bad pathogens to other labs for testing.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 5:28 pm to
When the time comes, the Black Death will be activated and many will perish.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41283 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 5:38 pm to
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Nothing nefarious going on in such a lawless place.


Yup. These facilities are so benign and harmless they could be outside Dubuque or Macon. Just coincidence that they're in the one country where all the political families in DC had family members with connections and vested financial interests.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23826 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 5:49 pm to
She just wants to be a POTUS.
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
7572 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 6:01 pm to
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It is well known that before 2014 the US was working with Russia as well to remove pathogens and sanitize these locations


The report today isn’t addressing this, so i am not sure of the relevance in

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The USSR had a shitton of these biowarfare labs. Biolab doesn't mean much other than testing dog turds at the vet or dissecting frogs in high school


Again, the report isnt addressing the first point. All of the things in 5h3 report are above the level of high school frog dissection. Let’s not dissemble.

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Some labs were turned into other purposes. One lab in Ukraine provides pretty bad pathogens to other labs for testing.


If we are funding those labs, and they have substandard safety procedures, this is actually something we should absolutely be concerned with.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16108 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 6:30 pm to
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If we are funding those labs, and they have substandard safety procedures, this is actually something we should absolutely be concerned with.


Let me spell it out for you. We were paying to have the threat reduced as it clean them up and kill the germs just in case you don't know what reducing the threat it
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16108 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 6:31 pm to
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She just wants to be a POTUS.


Maybe but it was obvious in 2016 that she was there to kneecap Kamala. May have made a deal with Biden to do this
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