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re: DNI Gabbard Releases US-Funded Biolab Evidence, including Ukraine

Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:06 pm to
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:06 pm to
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I'll ask this yet again, if the biolabs are nothing, then Tulsi's announcement was pointless. So why did she make an announcement about nothing as if it's something?


Spot on. The ones arguing against this are in denial. Even after everything that keeps coming out, they choose to argue against it because it conflicts with the rose colored, propaganda view of the world that they’ve been fed and choose to believe.

Oh, except for SFP, he has access to super, duper top secret information that Tulsi and Trump don’t have access to. He’s the ultimate authority on all things secret biolabs.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:09 pm to
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Exactly!

MSM tried to spin it as a conspiracy theory.

Now we have new evidence and Tulsi specifically mentions Gain-of-Function.

It will be interesting to see her full findings.


All people like SFP are trying to do is reframe the discussion into one where you cannot prove the intent of the people running the lab, therefore you cannot say it was a bioweapons lab. Anything in those frickin labs can be used as a weapon. Trying to frame it into a question of whether or not it was a weapons lab is a distinction without a difference.

At the end of the day we now know they were conducting illicit research in labs they were trying to keep out of the public eye. To me this establishes intent. I would think most reasonable people would see it the same way. SFP is not reasonable though. He is dishonest as a matter of course.

On the first page of this frickin thread it is firmly established that the talking point at the time this became knowledge was to deny the existence of the labs themselves. Once that became untenable to continue to deny, they pivoted to this bullshite narrative of, "oh yeah, the labs are real, but they're on the up and up. They aren't bioweapons labs." Well, there is no fricking difference. It's a totally fabricated distinction. And he knows this. He knows he is being blatantly dishonest. As does everyone else.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2053 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:09 pm to
People are making assertions and all I've done is ask for proof with questions. None of them have provided one shred of evidence for anything. They act like they were in every US funded biolab every second of every day.

They know nothing yet act like they do know something. They criticize the DNI as if they know better. It's astonishing.

If she's lying, PROVE IT.

And why won't any of them address the information ITT which does show allegations of nefarious activity? They keep pretending it doesn't exist. Why is that?
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2053 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:11 pm to
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Anything in those frickin labs can be used as a weapon
I have asked them for proof that covid was naturally occurring. I am disappoint

Now we have another halfwit denying that people died from covid. It's the equivalent of flat earth syndrome
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
14027 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:13 pm to
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They know nothing yet act like they do know something. They criticize the DNI as if they know better. It's astonishing.


This is what cracks me up, too. It’s like they think that some left leaning propaganda media piece holds more weight than the DNI who has access to information that they don’t. Yet, they have stretched this on for how many pages arguing that they know more than her.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2053 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:13 pm to
This thread is such a quintessential SFP thread. SFP makes assertions but then plays semantic games to squirm around providing any substantiation. When I point this out, SFP responds with more bluster and pretends no questions have been posed.

IT'S AWESOME TO WITNESS
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478284 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:14 pm to
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if the biolabs are nothing, then Tulsi's announcement was pointless. So why did she make an announcement about nothing as if it's something?


She's stoked the fire of the conspiracy theorists several times during this admin without any real substance. She is in a political position and she's playing politics, nothing more.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478284 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:16 pm to
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All people like SFP are trying to do is reframe the discussion


The irony.

I'm preventing others from doing this (shifting from biological weapons to "bio labs" generally and/or CV19)

The debunked claims from 2022-2023 were specifically about biological/chemical weapons programs these biolabs were supposed to be aiding.

Now people are trying to reframe the claims retroactively to something else and claim victory via this dishonesty.

I'm just pointing this out.

Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
13584 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:16 pm to
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She's stoked the fire of the conspiracy theorists several times during this admin without any real substance.


It sounds to me like you are the conspiracy theorist in this thread.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2053 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:17 pm to
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they think that some left leaning propaganda media piece holds more weight than the DNI who has access to information that they don’t
I get that Biden/Obama admins lied about stuff and I can say the same about them. The difference is, I've asked these people for proof of their assertions and they have none. Well since you have no substantiation, then why do you keep asserting something that you have no idea is true? Why not say "I don't know what's true but I have doubts that the labs were used for nefarious purposes." IOW, why not adopt an agnostic position instead of pulling an SFP.

If SFP has Asperger's that would explain the obstinate behavior but I don't know that for a fact.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
14027 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:17 pm to
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This thread is such a quintessential SFP thread


Yep. The more I see him in these threads, the more I’m convinced that he gets paid to try to disrupt and redirect threads that contain damning information like this.

Despite his post count, he’s conspicuously absent from threads this this…

ActBlue just PLED THE 5TH and REFUSED to answer about getting foreign donations infiltrating US politics on behalf of Democrats
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478284 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:18 pm to
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Yet, they have stretched this on for how many pages arguing that they know more than her.

Not even what's going on

Why do y'all have such problems reading relatively simple arguments? Why do you insist on creating strawmen instead?
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
13584 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:18 pm to
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I'm preventing others from doing this (shifting from biological weapons to "bio labs" generally and/or CV19)

The debunked claims from 2022-2023 were specifically about biological/chemical weapons programs these biolabs were supposed to be aiding.

Now people are trying to reframe the claims retroactively to something else and claim victory via this dishonesty.

I'm just pointing this out.


No, what you're doing is doubling down on your ridiculous reframing and pretending I didn't point out how fricking stupid your argument is.

Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2053 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:19 pm to
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She's stoked the fire of the conspiracy theorists
You continue to not have ANY proof of ANYTHING. So when you say "conspiracy theory" even in the face of evidence that corroborates the theory, you look as stupid as everyone knows you are.

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without any real substance
The substance has been enumerated ITT. You just won't address it and pretend it doesn't exist.

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nothing more
PROVE. IT.

You have nothing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478284 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:19 pm to
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The difference is, I've asked these people for proof of their assertions and they have none.


My proof is in Tulsi's releases, which do not confirm any biological warfare program.

Now the burden is on you to prove this biological warfare program existed, which goes against both these releases AND the MSM reporting of 2022-2023.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
14027 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:19 pm to
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Why do y'all have such problems reading relatively simple arguments? Why do you insist on creating strawmen instead?


Sorry. That’s your game. My bad.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478284 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:20 pm to
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ActBlue just PLED THE 5TH and REFUSED to answer about getting foreign donations infiltrating US politics on behalf of Democrats


Holy irrelevancy

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, the more I’m convinced that he gets paid to try to disrupt and redirect threads that contain damning information like this.

"Information like this" is typically unsupported conspiracy nonsense or straight up dishonesty. Why do you think pointing this out is a problem, exactly?
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
14027 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:20 pm to
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Now the burden is on you to prove this biological warfare program existed, which goes against both these releases AND the MSM reporting of 2022-2023.


Who has more access to information- Tulsi or the MSM??
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478284 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:20 pm to
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what you're doing is doubling down on your ridiculous reframing a

What reframing, specifically?

Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2053 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:22 pm to
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I'm preventing others from doing this
You are? Then why are people asking you the same questions? If you prevented it, those questions would disappear.

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debunked claims
Citation

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biological/chemical weapons programs these biolabs were supposed to be aiding
Prove that didn't happen. Prove that no one used the materials in the lab for crimes. You can't bring yourself to say "It's POSSIBLE someone committed crimes but I wasn't there to know for sure" because it would finally be self confirmation that you're a fraud

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Now people are trying to reframe the claims retroactively to something else and claim victory via this dishonesty
Nope nope nope. No one is doing this. This is a strawman you invented in your head

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I'm just pointing this out
You are typically dodging questions and the evidence
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