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re: DJT has collected enough money from Mexico in tariffs to pay for the wall.

Posted on 7/12/25 at 8:56 pm to
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
8156 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 8:56 pm to
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One of the best self owns out of many is how Congress wouldn’t give Trump a paltry $8 billion for the wall in 2017, but then after trying to throw him in jail and murder him he comes back and gets $50 billion to lock down the border.


And even the TDS'rs on here have to admit to this.

Hate him all you want. He is getting shite done no one else could do.

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62577 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:23 pm to
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Deductive reasoning isn’t some logical fallacy.
Its not, but the strawman you just made up is.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56918 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:29 pm to
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Its not, but the strawman you just made up is.


Ok. You want me to post contracts that aren’t public. I asked you to post inflation numbers, which are public. Who. Made up a straw man?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46096 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 9:47 am to
CPI is within the long term average annual YOY change at 2.8%. You could argue that tariffs have made things more expensive, but you’d also have to identify other factors that have offset that price growth.

The current argument is: just wait!!! It’s coming!! But that’s been the threat for months, so forgive my doubt. As long as big tariff schemes result in solid, equitable trade deals, which has been the pattern, what’s the issue? We were getting raped, and we should all agree that those deals couldn’t continue.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30437 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 9:51 am to
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If you ignore who pays tariffs.

Who would pay if Biden raised corporate tax rate? You think the companies would happily eat that increased expense, or would they increase the cost of their goods and services to offset the increased tax liabilty?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46096 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 10:03 am to
When Canada was slapping triple digit tariffs on agricultural goods imported into the US, were the Canadian people paying that tax? Of course not.

Similarly, Brazil doesn’t charge a 55% tariff on agricultural goods to punish their own people.

It’s a “convenient” misrepresentation of how tariffs work.

Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10038 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 1:53 pm to
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So you think consumers import goods at the point of sale or that your next door neighbor is buying wholesale copper. Lmao, this really is a retard asylum.


WTF are you talking about? Take your meds
Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
2007 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 1:54 pm to
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So Mexico really is paying for the wall after all


If by Mexico you mean American consumers then sure
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6663 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:24 am to
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Our business has been directly impacted by tariffs that have increased the cost of essential components unavailable domestically and driven specialty suppliers out of business, making it unsustainable for us to continue our operations." This is how tariffs kill jobs.


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Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
3330 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:38 am to
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but if you dont think that type of increase is bad and riddled with abuse, then you're not paying attention
So schumer said we didn't have 8 billion for the wall back in 2017-18, then went on to let in 20MILLION illegals. Assuming the illegals each got $10K in financial support/benefits paid for by the American Tax Payer (I believe is it much much higher) that comes to $200 Billion that wouldn't have needed to be paid had the wall been built. That is 192 Billion in abuse that you likely weren't worried about.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 9:39 am
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
8699 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:38 am to
Trump said Mexico ws going to pay and he is right again.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
3330 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:01 am to
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Trump said Mexico ws going to pay and he is right again.
Liberals can't understand that building the wall would keep the illegals south of the border. The money not spent on the illegals that stay south of the border can be spent on the wall. Paying for the wall.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9517 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:02 am to
So... Mexico DID pay for the wall. Nice.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9517 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:03 am to
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If you ignore who pays tariffs.


Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16678 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:07 am to
If we taxed remittances south of the border at 75% a lot of the illegals would go back.
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