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re: Distraught Special Ops because of Syria pull out

Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:59 am to
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:59 am to
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OP wants a single, unified and unambiguous answer from the two million people in the US military.


I would settle for a direct, attributable quote from one Special Ops Operator that was moved out of harms way as a start to verify this position...

Otherwise this is nothing more than reporters and their sauces... again...
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30543 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:07 am to
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but have no right to question what that soldier say's until you've done it.


So, I can question what they have had to say? I really appreciate you granting me that opportunity... Honestly don't know where the frick I would be without asswipes like you...

You give me 50 soldiers and I can find you as many dissenting opinions on any topic you want...

The entire issue with operators in this type of operation is they are on the tactical level and their focus in on the tactical level, where it should be... It is NOT their job to get into the Strategic level of their particular operation... In other words, some times they get TOO CLOSE to their mission and they let feelings get the best of them...

I have seen some good folks made some pretty stupid decisions because they could not separate their mission from their love and respect for those they are embedded with... It sucks but it is the job...
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
13316 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:14 am to
It's understandable, but it shouldn't matter. I'm sure there are lots of police officers who would be disappointed if someone took away their paramilitary gear and kneecapped their civil asset forfeiture power, but that doesn't mean doing so would be a bad thing.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:16 am to
I can see this a couple of ways. A lot of these guys didn't sign up to just sit around, they want action. I'd also assume some have local assets that they feel like they're leaving behind.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39157 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:17 am to
Around 2003 or so, my family worked with a refugee family, where the father had been murdered by the Taliban because he worked with US forces (or something like that, I don't remember the exact story). Incredibly sad. We gave them a lot of stuff to help them get settled, but eventually they went back to Afghanistan.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:17 am to
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question it all you want, but have no right to question what that soldier say's until you've done it.



Posted by charles_p_bacon
Member since Aug 2012
56 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:17 am to
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All of these years I was told that the military doesn’t like being involved with operations that don’t have a clear mission to accomplish - you know get in win and get out.


It’s a bit more complicated than that. Sure if you ask do you want endless deployments the answer is ‘no’. But think critically for a moment about what happens with a withdrawal. It’s not about the perception. The error is strategic in nature.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26053 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 11:01 am to
Maybe there is an answer. Instead of letting people across our Southern Border calling them "refugees" when we we know that's a load of BS,slam the door in their faces, number one.

Close the southern border. Shut it tight. Now Anti what do you mean? Hear me out.

If you are all so worried about the people we are deserting, those that have fought at our sides, the ones that have legitimately done so, give them the option to come here. Sounds to me like they've earned it if they want it. Our people know who they are. Better them, people that have fought for us and with us, than the ones bringing drugs and a hatred for our way of life.

Better a Kurd who likes Americans than some socialist from south of the border that doesn't.
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 11:05 am
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:57 pm to
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An endless, never ending commitment?


The Kurds can’t stand on their own. So yes, that’s what it would take.

And that’s what made our conduct so irresponsible.

Because of course we were never going to stay forever. No one would.

The Kurds are also fools though. This was transparently predictable.
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 1:59 pm
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67357 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:07 pm to

Bingo! Turkey will not do us any favors in Syria. I’m sure Erdogan was licking his chops when he was given the green light by DJT.
Posted by 56lsu
jackson mich
Member since Dec 2005
7847 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:15 pm to
just when I thought there might be a little civility from a trumpkin you prove me wrong.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84024 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:16 pm to
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just when I thought there might be a little civility from a trumpkin you prove me wrong.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154510 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:17 pm to
This is the thread where progs pretend they wouldn't aplaud King Hussein if he moved troops from Syria.

Unbelievable
Posted by DownSouthJukin
1x tRant Poster of the Millennium
Member since Jan 2014
31380 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:22 pm to
Unfortunately for them, they’re tactical operators and not strategic planners. I am proud as an American that they love their job and their relationships with their Kurdish hosts, but this is big picture.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
73893 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:30 pm to
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The error is strategic in nature.


Just the opposite. Long term its a good plan but in the short term(tactics) it may be concerning.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126587 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:33 pm to
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Well after serving for 32 years you can't question anything I state.

damn you old
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
7652 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:48 pm to
These guys are trained to fight. When their is no fight they become distraught
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84024 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:50 pm to
shite your hole Cash. I have flight suits older then you lol.
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