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re: Disney-Pixar Animation Film Bombards Kids with ‘Coming Out’ Story

Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:37 pm to
I shouldn’t have to screen a movie described as being about fricking toys that come to life and marketed to children to be sure that they didn’t include anything I don’t agree with like teaching children about homosexual relationships.

That has zero relevance to the story and serves only one purpose. To normalize the behavior and indoctrinate children into believing it should be accepted and encouraged.

You seem to be ok with it and you’re free to raise your children as pride parade participants if you’d like, but I should not be forced by Pixar/Disney to have discussions about homosexuality and other leftist agenda topics with a toddler because they want to watch a movie Pixar said was about toys.
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:39 pm to
Call me crazy but I don't take moral advice from someone who senselessly killed children.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139776 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:40 pm to
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Now can Disney do an inspiring tale about how hard work and an entrepreneurial spirit can lead to success for oneself as well as providing needed goods and/or services for the community as well as jobs?


What a great idea. Because of that, it will never happen.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41644 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:41 pm to
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Call me crazy but I don't take moral advice from someone who senselessly killed children.
You have no moral authority apart from God. If you reject Him, you're left with nothing more than your own opinion, in which case all anyone needs to do is say "who cares?" Your opinion is no more valid than anyone else's.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:41 pm to
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I shouldn’t have to screen a movie described as being about fricking toys that come to life and marketed to children to be sure that they didn’t include anything I don’t agree with like teaching children about homosexual relationships.

That has zero relevance to the story and serves only one purpose. To normalize the behavior and indoctrinate children into believing it should be accepted and encouraged.

You seem to be ok with it and you’re free to raise your children as pride parade participants if you’d like, but I should not be forced by Pixar/Disney to have discussions about homosexuality and other leftist agenda topics with a toddler because they want to watch a movie Pixar said was about toys.



What's the harm exactly? Are you afraid your child will turn gay now? Are you afraid your child will treat gay people with kindness and respect?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139776 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:43 pm to
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Are you afraid your child will treat gay people with kindness and respect?


Just the dishonest ones and the ones wearing leather chaps in parades?

Do leather chaps causing chafing when you parade?
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:44 pm to
The harm is that Disney has decided when and how I as a parent should have discussions with my children regarding certain topics.

Why would they do that?

Because they want to be the ones setting the narrative. Not me, the parent.
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 2:46 pm
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:45 pm to
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told everyone in 2017 that Coco was the start of Pixar normalizing SJW shite.


What? Coco is an incredible movie. What's SJW about Coco?
Posted by Muleriderhog
NYC
Member since Jan 2015
3116 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:47 pm to
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God cares. It's immoral and shouldn't be normalized

We aren’t having this argument again...

GFY.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41644 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:48 pm to
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We aren’t having this argument again...

GFY.
You don't have to but you asked the question.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21404 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:49 pm to
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You have no moral authority apart from God. If you reject Him, you're left with nothing more than your own opinion, in which case all anyone needs to do is say "who cares?" Your opinion is no more valid than anyone else's.


You're in the same boat. Skipping ahead because you're inevitably going to say that morality comes from God's own nature...

Did God decide his own nature?

If he did morality is whatever he chose it to be, he could have chose differently and morality would have changed (not objective).

If he didn't morality isn't necessarily connected to him.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29135 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:50 pm to
Why are they trying to push this so hard? They’re trying to ram and thrust it on us over and over.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23006 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:50 pm to
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The harm is that Disney has decided when and how I as a parent should have discussions with my children regarding certain topics.

Why would they do that?

Because they want to be the ones setting the narrative. Not me, the parent.



That logic applies to literally anything on tv, in movies, on the internet. You can't keep your child in a bubble and only address certain issues when you feel like it. That's life. I'm sure there were really young kids who were sad/confused when Mufasa died and their parents had to talk to them about it.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:51 pm to
Old time pro-capitalism cartoon

Need more of this...

Get on it Disney!
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16456 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:51 pm to
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I shouldn’t have to screen a movie described as being about fricking toys that come to life and marketed to children to be sure that they didn’t include anything I don’t agree with like teaching children about homosexual relationships.


Wait a minute, what did I miss in the Toy Story movies here? 1 is the only one I've watched from start to finish before I had kids, I've probably seen all of the scenes in 2-4 in the last few years with my boys but haven't watched them all at once.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25542 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:52 pm to
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The harm is that Disney has decided when and how I as a parent should have discussions with my children regarding certain topics.

Why would they do that?


I think you are confused.
You are the parent.
You can paint and frame the context any way that you want for your children.

Do you scream like a girl when you see 2 people of the same sex walking down the street? Because that is the equivalent of your current reaction.

Grow some balls and talk to your kids about your beliefs. Jesus Christ.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23006 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:53 pm to
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I think you are confused.
You are the parent.
You can paint and frame the context any way that you want for your children.

Do you scream like a girl when you see 2 people of the same sex walking down the street? Because that is the equivalent of your current reaction.

Grow some balls and talk to your kids about your beliefs. Jesus Christ.


Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139776 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:54 pm to
I explained that Mufasa was killed by a deranged leftist lion that killed everything he touched and only had hyenas for friends.

It’s a good comparison to the world today.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41644 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:58 pm to
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You're in the same boat. Skipping ahead because you're inevitably going to say that morality comes from God's own nature...

Did God decide his own nature?

If he did morality is whatever he chose it to be, he could have chose differently and morality would have changed (not objective).

If he didn't morality isn't necessarily connected to him.
I don't think you thought this through. It seems like you're trying to modify Euthyphro's Dilemma based on our previous discussions, but it doesn't work that way.

God didn't decide to be God and therefore nothing about God was decided by Him, He simply exists as He does and His perfect moral character is an aspect of His being. Since that character is the very basis for objective moral goodness (it's the perfect standard by which all "good" is measured), morality is necessarily connected to Him.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:58 pm to
You’re drawing an equivalency between death and homosexuality?

The two topics are not similar.

I absolutely can keep my children in a bubble until I feel they have reached a level of maturity necessary to approach and understand certain issues. Allowing your children to watch and do anything they please is not life, it’s lazy parenting and a sure way to end up with entitled leftists as adults.

It’s not shocking that you’re on the side of Disney here as it relates to what children should be exposed to and by whom. If you can remove the parent from the equation you’re free to indoctrinate a child in any way that you like. In this case with far left ideology.

We’ve gone beyond my original point, which was that Pixar should not market a film a certain way to children and then insert their own ideology not relevant to the story once people are already watching.
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