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Didn't Lindell successful show that our elections are pre-planned?

Posted on 8/10/21 at 11:13 pm
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/10/21 at 11:13 pm
I'm referring to the alrgithim used in all the states to create the voter rolls, thereby creating phantom voters?

At the state level, the outcome is determined before the election. The number of registered voters is basically falsified, as some percentage of the 2010 census, and the votes cast by voters of a certain age Is always demonstrably the same proportion of registered voters across every county in the state?

So the votes cast are mathematically predictable from the 2010 census using the same algorithm in every county?

Was that not demonstrated?

And, as a side note, didn't they also establish that the voting machines really are connected to the net AND are loaded with easily hackable database software through which totals can be changed?

Is all that a nothing burger?
It seems the narrative is that the entire thing was a flop. But it seems to me that they successfully demonstrated that the voting results, as well as the populations and registered voters are fake.

Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 8/10/21 at 11:15 pm to
This is the USA. Truth doesn't matter.

Just send your kids to die for corporate profits and Zionism and shut the frick up.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4324 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 11:21 pm to
I mean GD, why are we so fixated on a bunch of computer nerds tweeting about data packets when we know the results are clearly the product of a mathematical simulation and not actual vote tallies.

Not to mention the fact that the things not even over yet.
This post was edited on 8/10/21 at 11:27 pm
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/10/21 at 11:21 pm to
Lol no, none of that was demonstrated and that’s not even remotely how our elections work.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4324 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 11:22 pm to
Explain. If you can coherently explain the "key" that links the 2010 census to voting results, I will withdraw from the board.
This post was edited on 8/10/21 at 11:25 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/10/21 at 11:23 pm to
Posts like this are why Mike held the symposium.
Posted by TigerMuskyFanMinneso
Boonies, MN
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Posted on 8/10/21 at 11:26 pm to
troll

Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4324 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 11:28 pm to
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Lol no, none of that was demonstrated and that’s not even remotely how our elections work.


See MicKey, you POS. I knew you had nothing.
This post was edited on 8/10/21 at 11:30 pm
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23067 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 11:38 pm to
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Explain. If you can coherently explain the "key" that links the 2010 census to voting results, I will withdraw from the board.


There isn’t one. The census determines districting and representation in the electoral college. It doesn’t predict presidential elections a decade later
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 8/10/21 at 11:39 pm to
It's the same as that scene in Narcos Mexico
Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:20 am to
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Posts like this are why Mike held the symposium
I've liked Lindell for a while, and his rags-to-riches (or crack-to-riches) story is what makes America the place people are willing to die trying to reach. I also WANT him to be right on this particular issue.

That said, he needs to work on the elevator pitch. The farther down the statistical trail he goes, the more he loses any potential audience. Hell, I've accumulated 4 college degrees of my own, and I'm still struggling to keep up. Not that I'm any kind of subject matter expert AT ALL--my degrees were mostly the result of staying in college too damn long.

Way back in my engineering days I took an advanced physics class at LSU. The instructor was Greek, and he may as well have been speaking Greek because I could barely understand anything. One day he was gone to a conference, and he arranged for a retired professor emeritus to teach us. For that one golden day, I was able to understand both the content AND the instructor. It was a single moment of clarity in an entire semester of confusion. For one beautiful day, I had an instructor who could make the complex issues of physics comprehensible to me. I guess sort of like Rush Limbaugh would later do for many in the political arena.

From my perspective, Lindell needs someone like that to present a coherent "big picture" for him. Maybe that moment of clarity is yet to come. It certainly seems like Lindell has a lot of evidence--statistical and otherwise. He has put together overall good videography, and he has plenty of experts on-hand. Maybe the Thursday PM release will prove the fraud, dispel the critics, and start a revolution.

Or maybe this is the world's longest MyPillow infomercial.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:26 am to
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Explain. If you can coherently explain the "key" that links the 2010 census to voting results, I will withdraw from the board.



very simply here is what he is doing.

He's got different data sets he's jamming together that don't go together. then because the data doesn't go together he's apply a "smoothing" algorithm to the census data to get his age numbers. so right there, he's no longer even using census data but he's created his own data set.

Then we go a little further, from there what he does is tune his "algorithm" to all show the same line by changing all the variables. you can see screenshots from the videos where he's just changing the tuning to the different data sets to get the results he wants.

finally, we can't even verify what his algorithm is calculating exactly or how because he hasn't shared it.
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14035 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:53 am to
quote:

It seems the narrative is that the entire thing was a flop. But it seems to me that they successfully demonstrated that the voting results, as well as the populations and registered voters are fake.

The narrative was always going to be that the event was a flop, no matter what they uncovered. I thought it was a concise and accurate demonstration of how flawed our electoral system really is.

I would wager that 99% of the people who are actively trying to discredit the symposium didn’t watch it

Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:59 am to
I haven't seen the data from today but I think it's been pretty clear in trends that what you posted is what has been going on for years.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:02 am to
quote:

The narrative was always going to be that the event was a flop, no matter what they uncovered. I thought it was a concise and accurate demonstration of how flawed our electoral system really is.

I would wager that 99% of the people who are actively trying to discredit the symposium didn’t watch it



I watched it. It was trash with nothing new revealed.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:16 am to
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I watched it. It was trash with nothing new revealed.


Posted by Montezuma
Member since Apr 2013
3629 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:30 am to
You are making the assertion, you need to be more descriptive than this.

You are stating there are state driven algorithms that create voter rolls, yet, neither side claims this as a problem in counties across America, where they all get to validate.

How was Trump able to flip as many counties as he did in 2016 with these mathematical predictability tables from Census data that would have likely countered your exact statements in your second through fourth paragraphs?

I didn't see the internet portion you mention in your fifth paragraph, you need to elaborate

From what the headline of all of this was, as to show what actually happened in an undeniable fashion that would make a 9-0 SCOTUS vote to invalidate the election and put Trump back in office, this has so far not indicated anything close to that.

Burden of proof is on the accuser, so there has to be more for this to have legs.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 2:11 am
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:40 am to
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So the votes cast are mathematically predictable from the 2010 census using the same algorithm in every county?


I didn't watch this section so indulge me. Did he provide the databases he used for the raw data? Did he provide the algorithm he used to compare the data? Did he state the type and amount if any smoothing was used?

If he did it would be a simple matter to pick counties at random and decide how accurate his conclusion is.

The is going to be some level of rough correlation between census data and voting data even 10 years apart. Did he report the MSE (mean square error) of his results?
Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
4785 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:18 am to
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it would be a simple matter to pick counties at random and decide how accurate his conclusion is.
That's what I would like to see--maybe something where Lindell throws a dart at a random state/county then get the math guy to "predict" what the result should be vs. what was reported. Or maybe go back and show how his algorithm works using the 1990 census and the 2000 vote.

The problem is obviously that assuming the tallies are correct, the 2020 election was "decided" by fewer than 125K votes in 4 states. I didn't keep up with the precise tallies post-election, but the margins Pew reported on 12/4/20 were PA 1.2%, WI 0.6%, AZ 0.33%, and GA 0.25%. So, Lindell would be looking for the proverbial haystack needle in those states.

I guess the argument would be that DJT won decidedly in these states so the fraud would have been more widespread in order to counter his legitimate votes. Unfortunately, I believe the Dems could have put together 125k votes using dead bodies and their usual, garden-variety voter fraud.

Maybe the key is Ohio: DJT won there by all metrics, and his overall "loss" broke a longstanding streak of the winning Ohio Republican candidate prevailing nationally. Or something like that. Maybe Lindell's guys need to show how their calculations work in a place like Ohio where the Dems were likely trying (but substantially failing) to interfere.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57306 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 5:42 am to
The problem with the symposium is that everyone on both sides already knows exactly what happened. And nothing is going to happen.

He could drop truth bomb after truth bomb and all that will result in “ok…now what?” And “MUH debunked!” assuming people even know or understand what was said by the time Media and Big Tech suppress and filter it out
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 5:45 am
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