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re: Did Bill Maher have to apologize THAT much?

Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:52 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:52 am to
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any and all reminders of how their ancestors were property is something that should probably just not be brought up.


So, just pretend it didn't happen? Got it.
Posted by DupontsCircle
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:54 am to
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Did Bill Maher have to apologize THAT much?


He completely let himself be schooled by the progressive apologist Dyson on Friday. He was emasculated for the cause. Maher tried. Tried to wiggle out of it after he realized he fricked up and allowed this too much leash...he started with we are the "comedians", trained monkeys thing...

When a comedian relies on being a comedian talking point, he's out of material to say and is grasping at straws for some cover.

It honestly was the first time I saw Maher not putting up some kind of counterpoint. He created this monster, he finally let it eat him alive, willingly.
Posted by DupontsCircle
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:02 pm to
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there are def some people who need to be educated. a mirror could reveal one of them to you.



Slavery has literally happened in this world for thousands of years. Black people act like white Europeans created this shite and targeted them specifically.

Actually no. They should be mad at the Arab Slave Trade if they want to be specific. Most of the slaves brought here were resold by their fellow Africans.

Arabs were known for enslaving all races, including many white Europeans. It became such a huge deal after the Crusades that they'd regularly raid eastern European villages
Posted by Machine
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:06 pm to
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So, just pretend it didn't happen? Got it.

or maybe just don't make jokes about it

or do and be an a-hole, neither affects me
Posted by Machine
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:07 pm to
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Slavery has literally happened in this world for thousands of years. Black people act like white Europeans created this...


let me just stop you right there and point out that slavery throughout history has nothing do with slavery in the united states and its impact on citizens of both races today
Posted by DupontsCircle
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:11 pm to
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let me just stop you right there and point out that slavery throughout history has nothing do with slavery in the united states and its impact on citizens of both races today



You're right. Black folks could be sitting in Botswana sweating their arse off right now in a tee pee hut with some guy named Flying Eagle, but they aren't.

This victimhood shite for something that happened 150 years ago is absurd. Jim Crow was terrible but it's been over 50 years, two generations at least.

The only reason any of this shite gets any everyday play is because the United States is the richest country in the world and likes to allow itself to beat itself into its own submission. Every other country, same shite different day.
Posted by Machine
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:16 pm to
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You're right. Black folks could be sitting in Botswana sweating their arse off right now in a tee pee hut with some guy named Flying Eagle, but they aren't.

This victimhood shite for something that happened 150 years ago is absurd. Jim Crow was terrible but it's been over 50 years, two generations at least.

The only reason any of this shite gets any everyday play is because the United States is the richest country in the world and likes to allow itself to beat itself into its own submission. Every other country, same shite different day.

but they aren't, they're in american, and for some crazy reason poverty, crime, etc... is an epidemic in their community, and posters such as yourself would rather blame them for these problems rather than addressing the institutional prejudices that have existed in our government for centuries that holds them back collectively vs white people.



Posted by DupontsCircle
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:22 pm to
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would rather blame them for these problems rather than addressing the institutional prejudices that have existed in our government for centuries that holds them back collectively vs white people


You're asking me to believe that something is holding them back in today's world from helping them succeed? No, not in America today or today's government who literally gives 0% home loans to low qualified and low income buyers. We are talking almost 0%

Ignorance is their biggest problem. Their community by and large is ignorant. Black folks are smart, but they don't allow 1) free expression of thought, 2) independence of the community 3) The urban culture which they acclimate to isn't something that most successful folks identify with.
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 12:23 pm
Posted by Machine
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:24 pm to
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Ignorance is their biggest problem.
i'm gonna nominate this for most ironic post of the day
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:24 pm to
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and for some crazy reason poverty, crime, etc... is an epidemic in their community,

it's an epidemic of terrible culture and decision making

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and posters such as yourself would rather blame them for these problems

at a certain point, they have to take personal responsibility for their choices

when will this be expected? 10 years? 100 years? 150 years?
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Wtodd
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:30 pm to
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the N bomb

1st - it was CLEARLY a joke
2nd - it's only a word
Posted by Machine
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:44 pm to
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it's an epidemic of terrible culture and decision making
i won't deny that's a layer to it, but that's a layer directly related to institutional racism
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at a certain point, they have to take personal responsibility for their choices

when will this be expected? 10 years? 100 years? 150 years?


when we start addressing said institutional racism in way that will actually positively affect their communities, things will probably start getting better.
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 12:45 pm
Posted by DupontsCircle
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:45 pm to
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but that's a layer directly related to institutional racism


Why do you continue to box black folks in? Why are you trying to make excuses for them? But please. Continue about what this institutional racism is. Give me some examples.
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 12:47 pm
Posted by Machine
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:47 pm to
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2nd - it's only a word

i'm gonna step out on a limb and guess you're white? if so...South Park tackled this issue the best

Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:47 pm to
Seems he did.
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:48 pm to
Comedians who sell themselves as edgy and then apologize for their jokes.
Posted by Machine
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:49 pm to
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Why do you continue to box black folks in? Why are you trying to make excuses for them? But please. Continue about what this institutional racism is. Give me some examples.
box black folk in???

the people who "box [them] in" are the people who vote for politicians that slice welfare spending and cut taxes to millionaires.



Posted by zatetic
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:49 pm to


Maybe he doesn't want other negative attention brought out about him. Who knows.
Posted by Wtodd
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:50 pm to
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i'm gonna step out on a limb and guess you're white? if so...South Park tackled this issue the be

So at what stage in someone's life, regardless of color, etc, etc, etc, should a GROWN frickING PERSON not give 2 shits about some a-hole calling them a name?
Posted by Machine
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:52 pm to
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So at what stage in someone's life, regardless of color, etc, etc, etc, should a GROWN frickING PERSON not give 2 shits about some a-hole calling them a name?
not sure, i'm not black either. don't know how a word that reminds me that i live in a country where i'm pretty much a second class citizen would impact me.

but i imagine it'd cut pretty deep
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 12:53 pm
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