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re: DeSantis Signs Bill Prohibiting Medical Marijuana At Florida Recovery Residences
Posted on 7/1/23 at 1:59 pm to rmnldr
Posted on 7/1/23 at 1:59 pm to rmnldr
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Is that the only options though?
For some it is. Forcing people to quit cold turkey causes more people to relapse than a gradual weening. That is why alternative prescription drugs are used as part of the process.
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I still think MJ addiction is terrible.
Any addiction is terrible. After being around people with addictive personalities as often as I am I thank God all of the time I am not that type.
With that being said, I would take the less risky alternative 100% of the time
This post was edited on 7/1/23 at 2:00 pm
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Posted on 7/1/23 at 2:00 pm to stout
DeSantis is a simp frick
Posted on 7/1/23 at 2:01 pm to NIH
Potheads are a dreg on society.
Posted on 7/1/23 at 2:01 pm to rmnldr
Regardless, why are we keeping something illegal if responsible adults want to use it?
One of the weirdest things in this country regarding things like this is the demonization of weed and the acceptance of alcohol, IMO. I'm not here to demonize alcohol, I just think it's fricking weird everyone is cool with it when it's scientifically proven to be more harmful than weed and many other illegal substances.
One of the weirdest things in this country regarding things like this is the demonization of weed and the acceptance of alcohol, IMO. I'm not here to demonize alcohol, I just think it's fricking weird everyone is cool with it when it's scientifically proven to be more harmful than weed and many other illegal substances.
Posted on 7/1/23 at 2:03 pm to saint tiger225
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responsible adults want to use it?
Oxymoron
Posted on 7/1/23 at 2:03 pm to rmnldr
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And if addicts are addicted to it as a means off being of something stronger, should there be some sort of next step to get them off of MJ as well?
If they are functioning members of society and can control it then I personally don't care if they are on THC for the rest of their lives.
Most addicts will never be able to quit 100% of anything. Addiction really has a huge mental component to it as well. That is harder to overcome for many than the physical.
A number of guys I have hired from the sober living facility to work for me over the years wind up back in the streets and I lose touch with them. I am sure several at this point are dead from their addiction. I will take the safer alternative.
Posted on 7/1/23 at 2:03 pm to stout
I’m sorry for coming off a a jackass. I really appreciate that you hire guys that were former addicts. I worked with guys that were former felons and watching them not allowed on gov job sites due to their background checks failing and watching the shame wash over them was heartbreaking for guys who I knew as good people.
I think it can be useful if there’s a way to get people off of MJ as some sort of relay into not being addicted at all. There’s just such a strong weed culture in this country right now that thinks cannabis and THC should be as acceptable as tobacco usage was that I don’t see how it won’t just create long-term MJ addicts that are still being cognitively damaged.
I think it can be useful if there’s a way to get people off of MJ as some sort of relay into not being addicted at all. There’s just such a strong weed culture in this country right now that thinks cannabis and THC should be as acceptable as tobacco usage was that I don’t see how it won’t just create long-term MJ addicts that are still being cognitively damaged.
Posted on 7/1/23 at 2:03 pm to Adam Banks
You're just here to be a cocksucker. frick off.
Posted on 7/1/23 at 2:04 pm to stout
I enjoy marijuana and generally come down on the pro side, not to even mention my contempt for the rehab propaganda industry, but banning weed from rehab facilities doesn't seem that unreasonable. Though I would leave it up to the individual facility rather than gubernatorial fiat.
Posted on 7/1/23 at 2:04 pm to rmnldr
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Is it not addictive? I’ve purposely avoided cannabis my entire life but have known many that use it and used it for years and I notice their addiction whether or not they admit they’re addicted. Their cognitive functions take a nosedive as well.
Yes it is. My wife and I safely use legal cannabis products with great frequency and enjoy it but if I'm truly being honest with myself I'd be better off without it and have had several conversations with her about reducing our use.
The truth is somewhere in the middle of your opinion and theirs. When my wife and I go out of town, it's plainly obvious the addictive nature. There's issues getting sleep, some irritability. It's not too bad, but my wife will always suggest finding a shop with edibles or something. I hate searching out shops because it makes me feel like an addict having to find a fix, and I feel guilty at those times so I usually try to just ignore it, withdrawal's not that bad but it can last a few days and when you're on vacation you don't want to feel like that.
I don't believe it has any place in a facility where people are trying to beat addiction.
Posted on 7/1/23 at 2:05 pm to saint tiger225
It’s ok. I forgive you. That’s the reefer talking.
Posted on 7/1/23 at 2:06 pm to efrad
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I don't believe it has any place in a facility where people are trying to beat addiction.
Statistically forcing people to quit cold turkey without any alternative causes more people to relapse.
Posted on 7/1/23 at 2:06 pm to saint tiger225
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Regardless, why are we keeping something illegal if responsible adults want to use it?
My point is that I don’t think MJ should be used as an end-point to the addiction journey.
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One of the weirdest things in this country regarding things like this is the demonization of weed and the acceptance of alcohol, IMO. I'm not here to demonize alcohol, I just think it's fricking weird everyone is cool with it when it's scientifically proven to be more harmful than weed and many other illegal substances.
I understand. Last year I was in a bad place with alcohol drinking whisky every night to sleep. Like I said, I don’t think weed should be illegal but it shouldn’t be promoted like how it is in our culture.
Posted on 7/1/23 at 2:08 pm to efrad
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efrad
Thank you for your story and post
Posted on 7/1/23 at 2:08 pm to stout
I'm proud to be a boomer. I am a conservative. I am also a medical Marijuana user. It does bring relief to my pain. I also feel Marijuana should be legal for all, perhaps regulated like alcohol and tobacco. We've spent too damn much money housing people in jail, ruining people's lives (criminal record, loss of assets) and trying to police a damn naturally growing weed that is helpful in many ways besides the psychoactive component of it.
Posted on 7/1/23 at 2:08 pm to rmnldr
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My point is that I don’t think MJ should be used as an end-point to the addiction journey.
Some people are on other prescription drugs for years if not decades to keep them sober from street drugs.
Of course, the ideal choice would be to have those people on nothing at all but that is not reality.
Posted on 7/1/23 at 2:09 pm to rmnldr
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but it shouldn’t be promoted like how it is in our culture
And how is it being promoted?
I don't see some huge weed promotion going on. Do people want it to be legalized at every level of government? Of course. It's stupid for it not to be. That doesn't mean people are out here promoting it as some end all cure all type shite.
Most of us just want it to be legal for adults. IMO, that age limit should be 21.
Posted on 7/1/23 at 2:10 pm to stout
I guess so. I see your point of it. I appreciate your efforts to help educate me on the issue.
Posted on 7/1/23 at 2:10 pm to Adam Banks
Posted on 7/1/23 at 2:11 pm to saint tiger225
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And how is it being promoted?
I’m gonna sound like a goober boomer but through the pop-culture. It’s ubiquitous in hip-hop that seemingly 85%+ of young people listen to.
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Most of us just want it to be legal for adults. IMO, that age limit should be 21.
I think it should be but there needs to be clear information on what kind of damage it can cause.
This post was edited on 7/1/23 at 2:13 pm
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