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re: DeSantis’ PAC raises $97 million, Trump $31 million

Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:25 am to
Posted by philter
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:25 am to
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:26 am to
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Never Back Down has something like 91 million on hand

All of Trump’s PACs combined have a total of 60 on hand


Actually NBD alone has $96 million and that is separate from the actual campaign which is doing very well also but is smaller because of donation limits. All four of Trump's PACs combined have about $12 million and he has $22 million in his campaign so about $34 million total on hand, less than 1/3rd of Ron's money.

That's not the real concern though for Trump. The real concern is Trump has been spending HUGE and he is not raising money at a fast clip because the big donors have left him. People with serious money don't like to pay for lawyers for someone else and that has been brutal for fundraising for Trump. So if you do the math on how much Trump is spending and how much he has left and how much he is raising at the current rate he will be completely broke by November or sooner.

So that means Trump has to change something. He either needs to cut way back on spending or he needs to find a new source of income. Neither is a great option. Of course he could theoretically self fund but he's not going to do that and in order to do that at this point he would have to sell assets. Trump is asset rich but not very liquid and he has an albatross investment with Truth Social currently that is losing a lot of money for him. That is why Trump's plan has been to try to KO DeSantis early and he has blown his load trying to do so. He has certainly caused damage but DeSantis isn't going anywhere.

DeSantis is in great shape financially. He's got his org set up and running, he's raising a ton of of money with plenty of big donors, and he has a HUGE reserve. He even cut back on costs to make sure he doesn't jump ahead of his skis and is spending more time on Free Media and lower cost events that are retail politics as his plan is to start spending big as we get close to the primaries when Trump is likely to be very short on cash.

Of course all of this can change and Trump is a great draw for Free Media himself. Of course Trump hasn't done well in confrontational interviews so he can only go on Hannity and Maria so many times (while talking about how Fox hates him, lol).

He's got the big polling lead but those polls are based around a perception that he is the clear frontrunner and the best chance to beat Biden. We will see if he can keep that up. Money isn't everything in campaigns but it absolutely matters.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18591 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:29 am to
Never back down reminds me a little of the Lincoln project. Lincoln project always seemed to have an infinite supply of funds to throw around. In 2020, I saw more Lincoln project ads on yt than ads from legit biden super pacs or the biden campaign itself.
Posted by immobileman
nowhere in particular
Member since Nov 2014
1862 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:32 am to
Trump gets donors for civilians. DeSantis is mainly corporations, guess who will work for the people and who will work for the corporations?
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56803 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:33 am to
The big money is doing all they. An to avoid Trump and keep their deals in place. It’s amazing to me that the average American can’t see this.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68364 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:34 am to
Must be tough having all that grifted money and no matter how much you spend, it won’t change the result.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130199 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:34 am to
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Money don't matter; Hillary had tons.


And got more votes than Trump. Jill Stein and her hubris of not showing up in key states is what got Trump a win
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130199 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:34 am to
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Never back down reminds me a little of the Lincoln project


You mean the Lincoln Project that is now Team Trump?
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
5034 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:34 am to
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Funny story, I've never donated to either of their PACs yet I only get NBD emails. Latest one


Well if you any experience with Trump Campaign, they will email you, text you, call you 3-4 times a day
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68364 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:35 am to
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He even cut back on costs to make sure he doesn't jump ahead of his skis


The spin is unbelievable
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
17530 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:37 am to
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Trump gets donors for civilians.


Completely false lie
Posted by philter
Member since Dec 2004
8971 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:43 am to
82% of Trumps donations came from small donors, not a lie.

Those 2020 big donors are supporting Ron and others now.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130199 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:49 am to
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82% of Trumps donations came from small donors, not a lie.

Those 2020 big donors are supporting Ron and others now.



You pretend this is a bad thing for Ron which is funny. It wasn't a bad thing in 2016 and 2020, but now it is.

Do you know the reason for this? It isn't because the big donors think they can buy Ron or that Trump is just a man of the people like you wackjobs believe.

We know for a FACT the reason. FACT.


The big donors found out where there money is going: Trump's legal fees and those of his people. His PAC is PAYING JASON MILLER'S LEGAL FEES IN A CHILD SUPPORT FIGHT.

Trump is using the vast majority of his funds NOT on:

Ground Game
Ballot Harvesting
Ads
Campaign Structure
Debate Prep

But on legal fees for his people.

Big donors want nothing to do with that nonsense. Trump knows this, so he is taking money from Grandparents retirements to pay his own bills.

Gross behavior that you cucks endorse.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89713 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:50 am to
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DeSantis “can reboot his campaign as many times as he likes, but his campaign cannot change the fact that he himself is a charm-free, charisma-free, humor-free zone — a rigid, unlikable, antisocial automaton of a presidential candidate,” said Hasan.

“It is no wonder he is behind by 30 points,” he added.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89713 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:51 am to
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Gross behavior that you cucks endorse.


Lol, so desantis is grifting more than trump, yet you mad at trump.

Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9405 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:56 am to
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Trump gets donors for civilians. DeSantis is mainly corporations, guess who will work for the people and who will work for the corporations?




This is just false. DeSantis actually has more donors overall than Trump and has a huge amount of small donors. It's just the big donors that used to give money to Trump have moved to DeSantis. They don't think Trump can win and they don't want to pay his legal expenses.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9405 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:03 am to
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Must be tough having all that grifted money and no matter how much you spend, it won’t change the result.


Actually what those reports show is DeSantis has spent very little of his money and what he has spent has mainly been on infrastructure and ground game. Trump has spent all his reserves already and is on fumes and money isn't coming in very fast to make up for it. Trump spent big to attack DeSantis and on legal fees but that money is drying up while Ron is sitting on a giant stack of cash.

This race hasn't really started is the point, we have basically gotten Trump's best shot in the pre season. Will have to see if it can sustain him as he either operates on a shoestring or he finds a new source of cash.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:04 am to
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All of Trump’s PACs combined have a total of 60 on hand


That won't even cover his lawyers.
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:04 am to
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Well if you any experience with Trump Campaign, they will email you, text you, call you 3-4 times a day


No kidding. My spam folder for text messages are all Trump campaign begging for money. There's at least 2-3 a day.



They're desperate hitting up anyone whose ever donated to Trump.


Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130199 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:06 am to
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said Hasan.




You're quoting someone that works for Trump and is one of the biggest pieces of shite in existence.

he routinely verbally abuses people both in person and on twitter. He was calling women "counts" and men "f***tts" the other day.

Real winner
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