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re: Deregulation of Housing

Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:24 pm to
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
15662 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:24 pm to
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frick that

Insightful
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112560 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:24 pm to
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Now, there are strong pursuits to get rid of single-family zoning, height limits, ADU codes, paring minimums, etc. to encourage dense free-market development.


possibly the most self-contradictory sentence since Cassidy's explanation of his vote on conviction
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94757 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:27 pm to
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parking minimums.


that 200sq feet per unit is the problem in a city with , what, 50% "green space" requirements, vertical limits, etc. and all that price-gouging bullshite.
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:31 pm to
Yeah. LA here- the market is ridiculous. What a lot of leftie boomers don’t understand, is that more development (done smartly) equals fewer wildfires. I once had one such person explain that fires were threatening houses because people were moving into fire territory. I pointed out that developing surrounding her own (she was evacuating) would act as a cultivated buffer and water features could be required for neighborhood developments. Every time I hear about 50,000 acres or whatever burning just outside LA, I can’t help but wonder why a townhome in Lima Linda costs just South of $1 million. Senseless. Also, the high density schemes are especially insidious as new high-density developments pretty much always include low income units.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17670 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:33 pm to
The irony is that while they're going after more affordable housing, higher density zoning is almost always sought-after by developers since they can squeeze more out of the same piece of dirt.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12828 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:36 pm to
Why are we clearing land to build so many house right now if we want to green? It’s crazy that democrats want to destroy the first to build house and then cry about climate change.
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:39 pm to
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Development is terrifying for much of the American suburbanite population, especially in California.


That’s because they expect their inflated home to be their retirement trust. I just told off a boomer real estate agent yesterday. She showed me a $1.4 million dump, then when I asked about lowballing to account for renovations, she said that was already factored in, then proceeded to tell me what documents were needed for the offer. I replied I would wait for the market to pull back. She responded with a hyperbolic email saying “if I waited for the pullback, I would end up paying twice as much at a higher interest rate.” I told her off. Anybody know a trustworthy real estate agent in Los Angeles area, btw?
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 9:24 pm
Posted by SmileyVamp
Member since Dec 2020
96 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:41 pm to
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Why are we clearing land to build so many house right now if we want to green? It’s crazy that democrats want to destroy the first to build house and then cry about climate change.

The suburban demographic are usually key voters. This means both Democrats and Republicans are not comfortable with pursuing pro-development policy as that would likely anger suburban voters.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:44 pm to
Learn ebonics.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:50 pm to
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worried about gentrification. Typically suburban folk


Totally disconnected and illogical stuff here.

Suburban folks are not worried about gentrification. Most suburban (you mean white, mainly) folk consider gentrification of shitty areas to be a good thing. It's only the super-woke who hate gentrification, because once a hood goes shitty, it must always remain shitty, because we can't have white people moving back in and investing their own capital into it.

Posted by nugget
Abrego Garcia Fan
Member since Dec 2009
15667 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:53 pm to
Biden wants to end the 1031 exchange. That goes to show we are going to get even more anti-development policies under this administration.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94757 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:56 pm to
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The suburban demographic are usually key voters. This means both Democrats and Republicans are not comfortable with pursuing pro-development policy as that would likely anger suburban voters.



Well, they better buckle up with your "pro-development" policy when it drops high density/low income housing units smack in the middle of middle class homes in red states.

That's going to do wonders for home values.
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:44 pm to

Don’t get me wrong, I would love to go back there. However, most people don’t take into account what life in Montana would be like 12 months out of the year. So far away from a white sandy beach along warm gulf waters.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10338 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 2:40 am to
This is nothing but Agenda 2030 to force people into overpopulated cities and an attempt to ruin nice housing areas with ghetto trash. It's more shitty policies to destroy the middle class. No thanks.

If you want more affordable housing, then cut regulations. This is as dumb as democrats trying to tax the country out of a deficit.
Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
5817 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 3:30 am to
A pro Sacramento post means you’re another commie bastard visiting TD

KISS MY arse
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
17625 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 5:10 am to
Keep ruining California, no one cares and it’s lost as an American state at this point. Don’t fricking California the rest of the US becuase it does not work.
Posted by SmileyVamp
Member since Dec 2020
96 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:35 am to
Source: LINK

Ann Arbor mulls ‘unlimited height’ development zones
quote:

ANN ARBOR, MI — Should Ann Arbor establish new “unlimited height” development zones to encourage more dense housing and mixed-used development along transit corridors?

That’s a question city officials are exploring as part of a transit-oriented development zoning initiative, and it was the subject of community discussion and debate this week.

At a Planning Commission work session Tuesday night, Feb. 9, City Planner Alexis DiLeo gave an overview of what’s been proposed so far, noting the zoning project has been “on again, off again, back on again” in recent years.

The government of Ann Arbor, Michigan is considering an unlimited height zone for the city to encourage dence development.
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 11:36 am
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12595 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:39 pm to
Cram as many in the cities as you can...keeps them out of my backyard. There isn't a medium to large city in my state worth a shite to live in.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12595 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:43 pm to
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Good news, San Francisco has gotten rid of parking minimums.

That's good news to me. Cram more into San Fran.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 1:15 pm to
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Unfortunately, you have the NIMBYs (Not In My BackYard). People who refuse to allow development to happen because it would ruin the "character" of their neighborhoods and/or worried about gentrification. Typically suburban folk uncomfortable with change.

Yeah. Everybody purports to adopt this beautiful, Christian, kind-hearted position until it happens to them. Then it's "Over my dead body". Stop making these people live off the gov't dole and teach them how to succeed then the problem (at least theoretically) goes away. But then so does the Democrat voting base. Follow?
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