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re: Deportation- Obama vs Trump

Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:38 pm to
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
9308 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:38 pm to
quote:

militarization


OMG, police use guns and force!!!

Posted by Tigertittie
Member since Sep 2021
868 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:42 pm to
Uh gee I don't know, because dems refuse to enforce the law? : dunno :

Damn emojis
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 11:45 pm
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
18771 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:42 pm to
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Under Obama's 8-year leadership, he gained the title of "Deporter in Chief" for logging more than 3M ICE deportations. Trump, during his first term, was credited with being just shy of 1M ICE deportations Question ---If Obama was able to achieve such a feat without the militarization of the ICE department, why can't Trump adopt that strategy?


The border has been shite through the last several presidents. Obama didn’t stop shite, Trump it was slowed but still around his first term. Biden got elected and the fricking flood gates opened. Then I think it got so bad under Biden they just stopped bypassing the checkpoint and let everyone in so my place wasn’t a pass through anymore. It’s going on two years now that I’ve seen an illegal on my place.
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
9308 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:43 pm to
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He is vain and wants everyone to see what his administration is getting done.


Lol, such satire.

The mostly liberal media wasn’t focused on something that would hurt their golden president. We had 20+ million people cross an open border in four years while the syndicate ran the country. When you have a guy like Trump cleaning up the mess of the prior administration, the media is going to call him Hitler, which they have. Obama was every bit as “vein”, if not more than Trump. To say that is complete and utter TDS nonsense.
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4172 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:43 pm to
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Link your questions for the Biden and Obama admins.


That’s 12 years. Surely you asked lots of questions here then.

Or…..

STFU


I joined this board in 2016 and spent most of my time on Pels and Saints talk.

I wasn't really into politics at that age in my life.

Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:47 pm to
I maybe off my rocker, but there uncovering of how deep the corruption goes and how bad they wanted illegals to take us over.

I’m thinking that Obama’s Admin faked those #’s and just deported obvious situations that was needed.

All the manipulations, lies, orchestration of org aided crime; I could see them manipulating #’s to look good on the border on paper for argument against conservatives, but let the illegals stay and vote in the states it’s legal and gradually turn purple into blue.

Slimy POS Hussein is!
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4172 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:47 pm to
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Well, Trump has essentially stopped illegal border crossings. No one to turn back.

Now, you suggest how to deport the millions Biden let in without ICE going and getting them.


I see — from reading the replies, it seems the difference is Obama focused on turnarounds and allowed the ppl who were here to remain.

In contrast, Trump is going after the ones who are here since the border crossings are not as much of a thing as they were.

Thank you
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73334 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:47 pm to
we get it. you’re pro illegal immigration. this post isn’t clever and neither are you.
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4172 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:50 pm to
quote:

we get it. you’re pro illegal immigration. this post isn’t clever and neither are you.


I'm actually not---I fully support deportation. I may disagree on the how.

But thanks to some of the replies I got on here, I sort of understand the difference in approaches.
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 11:51 pm
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73334 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:54 pm to
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But thanks to some of the replies I got on here, I sort of understand the difference in approaches.


go on…
Posted by eliguanodon
Member since Jan 2013
14 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:54 pm to
It’s because no one cared then. Everyone wanted it done. It’s only a problem now because Trump is the one doing it. If Biden was deporting illegals during his four year term it wouldn’t have been discussed.
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
9308 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 11:55 pm to
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It’s because no one cared then. Everyone wanted it done. It’s only a problem now because Trump is the one doing it. If Biden was deporting illegals during his four year term it wouldn’t have been discussed.


/thread
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4172 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 12:05 am to
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It’s because no one cared then. Everyone wanted it done. It’s only a problem now because Trump is the one doing it. If Biden was deporting illegals during his four year term it wouldn’t have been discussed.


I think it's more of the "how" it's getting done. Every day Americans don't want to see that much force being applied to other humans (illegal or not), especially those who are working here and supporting the economy. There should be some level of tact involved.

Trump isn't the first President to focus on deportation---his tactics are completely unorthodox, and you can't be surprised that many have issues with it.
Posted by eliguanodon
Member since Jan 2013
14 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 12:25 am to
Disagree. We know Obama used ICE but we didn’t have a bunch of liberals threatening them with harm. They were protesting the deportation of the illegals before he even took office.
Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
1068 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 12:33 am to
because Obama didnt hire people like Stephen Miller. his antagonistic tone who frames deportation as a war to protect Western civilization... that rhetoric would increase criticism and scrutiny.

now even Americans who support tough border policy like Joe Rogan
are pushing back against ICE raids and deporting Abuela.

if ICE's goal is a arbitrary 300 deportations a day, you are going to see controversial stories like a Marine's family getting deported. i guarantee things like that happened under Obama too but it was so under the radar



This post was edited on 10/18/25 at 12:44 am
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4172 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 12:35 am to
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Disagree. We know Obama used ICE but we didn’t have a bunch of liberals threatening them with harm. They were protesting the deportation of the illegals before he even took office.


Again--his methods are unorthodox. Most people would not care or even know this stuff was going on if Trump did not yell about it every chance he gets.

He brings attention to these topics and then gets upset that people are paying attention. If he were to do his business in silence, then he probably wouldn't have this much public backlash.

We see this with everyday people on social media. They post stuff to the public, then get upset that the public has a differing opinion.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43551 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 12:58 am to
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Every day Americans don't want to see that much force being applied to other humans (illegal


This is EXACTLY what everyday Americans (the majority) DID vote for.

Are you just going to continue to be dishonest the entire thread?
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11286 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 12:59 am to
quote:

Yeah, I read that as well, but even still, that seems like a more effective and practical long term approach than what we have going on now.


Wait... are you so retarded you think we're not turning people away at the border now?
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
1880 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 5:05 am to
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manipulated every number known to man


How do we know the current ‘self deportations’ number is accurate?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27601 posts
Posted on 10/18/25 at 5:55 am to
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Question ---If Obama was able to achieve such a feat without the militarization of the ICE department, why can't Trump adopt that strategy?

Trump is building a personal police force. Actual numbers never mattered.
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