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re: Dems lawfare is picking up.

Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:08 am to
Posted by Hodag
Northwoods
Member since Sep 2024
1083 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:08 am to
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This one always seems to be involved in these types of lawfare activities.


A bitch or a colored person?
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3578 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:11 am to
I don’t understand why both sides wouldn’t coordinate their own challenges with favorable judges to beat the opposition to the punch.
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
10358 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:12 am to
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except Pro is the contrarian w/ out the occasionally humor.


The frick?


Pro, we don't all get to type responses on our work computer at the Law Firm while simultaneously billing clients. Good for you though.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475939 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:14 am to
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The difference is "irreparable harm."

I'm not talking about the merits, though, only the power itself.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475939 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:16 am to
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It's not irrelevant at all. It's crucial to the question

To the question of whether the existence of this power is good or bad? How?

quote:

But when a federal judge orders the stoppage of the firing of a single executive branch employee BY THE EXECUTIVE

That's getting into the merits, which is a different discussion than what my post covered.

I gave no commentary on the propriety (one way or the other) of the merits (in either case).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475939 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:17 am to
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we don't all get to type responses on our work computer at the Law Firm while simultaneously billing clients. Good for you though.


That's bordering on per se defamation.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18730 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:19 am to
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They are going to lose at every turn when it goes up to the higher courts. Trump will win every single one of them.


And it sounds like a lot of this lawfare was funded through USAID.

With that shut down, it will be interesting to see how far they can go with lawfare before the tank runs empty.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19504 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:19 am to
She can wish in one hand and shart in the other. The fact remains Hampton Dellinger has been fired.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
181870 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:20 am to
quote:

Both were literally over limiting executive branch functio


Sure but can there is a huge difference in the EB managing personnel and budgets vs mandating a vaccine. One is a right given to the EB and the other is an overreach.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
15657 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:20 am to
Nothing new...began - at least - in the 70s

It is akin to the bad guy being shielded against the good guy

Typical Progressive horse$@#*
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115014 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:22 am to
frick her.

Lock him out of his computer and the building.

Tenure of Office Act was declared unconstitutional.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49611 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:23 am to
"Lawfare? What's lawfare?" - Slow Mo Fo
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475939 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:23 am to
quote:

"Lawfare? What's lawfare?" - Slow Mo Fo

Bad thread to try that
Posted by TheBeezer
Texas
Member since Apr 2013
2176 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:24 am to
This you?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475939 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:24 am to
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Sure but can there is a huge difference in the EB managing personnel and budgets vs mandating a vaccine. One is a right given to the EB and the other is an overreach.


There are clearly differences in the merits, just like this EO and the birthright citizenship one. I was only discussing the judicial power itself, which JJ took issue with.

quote:

They are trying to assume power via courts.


His issue is with judicial power and his perception that it's encroaching on the executive. I'm just pointing out he didn't seem to have an issue when this power benefited his team.
Posted by FriedEggBowL
MS
Member since Nov 2021
1514 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:24 am to
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They are going to lose at every turn when it goes up to the higher courts. Trump will win every single one of them


Their goal isn't to win the cases. Their goal is to delay as much of Trump's agenda as they can and pray the mid-terms work out in their favor. As they usually do go against the party in the White House.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49611 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:25 am to
quote:

Bad thread to try that 


It's never a bad time to tell the truth. You should give it a try sometime.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19504 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:25 am to
Yep

Or set up an office in Antarctica and send him there.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35397 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:27 am to
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I'm not talking about the merits, though, only the power itself.


The courts have the power of judicial oversight. No one questions that. But it should be used to correct major oversight of constitutional issues.

Getting involved in personnel and operational decisions is a horrible precedent for the federal court system to get involved in.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475939 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:28 am to
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The courts have the power of judicial oversight. No one questions that.


JJ was questioning it in OP, and that's specifically what I replied to

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