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re: Democrats=Socialists=Communists
Posted on 7/21/17 at 6:45 am to RuLSU
Posted on 7/21/17 at 6:45 am to RuLSU
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Democrats are ostensibly liberals: they want the state to exist to protect people's individual rights
Give me a few examples that would align with the individual rights you speak of and how the democrat party aligns with the views of classical French liberalism on limited government, legal plunder, religious freedom etc.
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 6:49 am to Tbobby
Read a book.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 6:50 am to buckeye_vol
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buckeye_vol
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logic
Does not compute
Posted on 7/21/17 at 6:53 am to Tbobby
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What's the difference?
You need help.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 6:58 am to tarzana
There's no real difference
Posted on 7/21/17 at 6:59 am to Tbobby
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Democrats=Socialists=Communists
What's the difference?
it's kind of like
Grambling-ULL-LSU
Posted on 7/21/17 at 7:18 am to Tbobby
Past, present, future
Posted on 7/21/17 at 7:31 am to RuLSU
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Democrats are ostensibly liberals: they want the state to exist to protect people's individual rights.
Thats funny right there.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 7:39 am to Tbobby
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Democrats=Socialists=Communists
Republicans = Fascists, same question
Posted on 7/21/17 at 7:40 am to Tbobby
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What's the difference?
As in you don't know the definitions of the words, or...?
Posted on 7/21/17 at 7:40 am to RuLSU
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Democrats are ostensibly liberals: they want the state to exist to protect people's individual rights. The principles of classical liberalism are actually strong, even if todays "liberals" fail to live up to those standards.
Socialists are the supreme statists. They want the government to own it all.
Communists are dreamers who envision a stateless, ownerless society. They're kooks.
Any additional questions?
I have a question.
How are their stated goals different? If one were to listen to their rhetoric and explanations of the problems in society, what words or concepts would stand out to differentiate one from the other?
If the communist would state the problem as "income inequality" and "the rich" should "Spread the wealth around" for the "greater good", would the socialist/democrat agree?..etc?
Posted on 7/21/17 at 7:44 am to Quarterite
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Republicans = Fascists, same question
Examples?
Posted on 7/21/17 at 7:48 am to LSU Patrick
But the OP delivered a full, clear, complete picture of the issue at hand, amirite?
Posted on 7/21/17 at 8:00 am to Dale51
They all have different methods of organization. The earliest split in communism came at the First International between Marxist Communists and Anarchist Communists. There are further divisions between all sorts of different groups. The Marxist-Leninist would be the most likely to suggest state control and intervention, where as an Anarcho-communist would suggest individual or small group approach. It all depends on the objective. Marxism-Leninism has become the more dominant ideology, becoming the pattern of practice in the Eastern Bloc, but there isn't any great unity in the left except from a distance.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 8:05 am to crazy4lsu
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Marxism-Leninism has become the more dominant ideology, becoming the pattern of practice in the Eastern Bloc, but there isn't any great unity in the left except from a distance.
Which Marxist/Leninist/Communist concepts of social order have you heard the Democrat/socialists speak out against? Just curious.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 8:05 am to Tbobby
Definition of democrat
1 an adherent of democracy
2 one who practices social equality
Definition of democracy
a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority
b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
This does not describe today's Democratic party.
Definition of socialist
1: one who advocates or practices socialism
Definition of socialism
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Kind of sounds like what we are dealing with today?
Definition of communism
1 a : a theory advocating elimination of private property b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
Describes OBAMA Care and many other Democratic views.
I think today's Democrats are anything but Democrats by definition. The have morphed into some Liberal, Socialist, Communist party.
1 an adherent of democracy
2 one who practices social equality
Definition of democracy
a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority
b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
This does not describe today's Democratic party.
Definition of socialist
1: one who advocates or practices socialism
Definition of socialism
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Kind of sounds like what we are dealing with today?
Definition of communism
1 a : a theory advocating elimination of private property b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
Describes OBAMA Care and many other Democratic views.
I think today's Democrats are anything but Democrats by definition. The have morphed into some Liberal, Socialist, Communist party.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 8:06 am to LSU Patrick
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This is terribly incomplete.
Worse than an outright lie; called a 'half-truth'. The mother's milk of demagogues and tyrants; and likely a basic Axiom of the Spiritual Paradigm. Think Lucifer (metaphor or no).
Posted on 7/21/17 at 8:07 am to Tbobby
Democrats = What a communist becomes when constrained by a constitution
Socialists = What a communist becomes when he figures out he can bypass the constitution.
Communists = What Democrats would be if there were no constraints
Socialists = What a communist becomes when he figures out he can bypass the constitution.
Communists = What Democrats would be if there were no constraints
Posted on 7/21/17 at 8:38 am to Dale51
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Examples?
Oh yeah. Just another Democrat.
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