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Democrats Planned Parenthood argument.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:45 pm
This I know is a touchy subject, even for conflicted Republican voters. Sadly, this is a one issue vote decider for far too many people, no matter how consequential other issues are to their daily lives.
Here is what I see as a failure of Republican to properly fight back on abortion and Planned Parenthood. For all these years the Democrats have told voters funding PP was essential for women's health. They avoided the whole PP business purpose that is abortion.
For those that still say abortion is not PP primary mission, then answer this question. Why did PP close clinics after SCOTUS gave states the ability to make abortion illegal? The states have no issue with PP still providing women's healthcare so why is the one service of abortion, that they claim was not their main mission, so detrimental to their ability to continue operating?
Further, Obamacare made women's healthcare more available to all, but even then Democrats said the government still needed to fund PP. Why?
Lastly, was PP real source of revenue coming from the "products" from abortion they were selling? Is this why without abortion, PP apparently han no functioning business purpose?
Here is what I see as a failure of Republican to properly fight back on abortion and Planned Parenthood. For all these years the Democrats have told voters funding PP was essential for women's health. They avoided the whole PP business purpose that is abortion.
For those that still say abortion is not PP primary mission, then answer this question. Why did PP close clinics after SCOTUS gave states the ability to make abortion illegal? The states have no issue with PP still providing women's healthcare so why is the one service of abortion, that they claim was not their main mission, so detrimental to their ability to continue operating?
Further, Obamacare made women's healthcare more available to all, but even then Democrats said the government still needed to fund PP. Why?
Lastly, was PP real source of revenue coming from the "products" from abortion they were selling? Is this why without abortion, PP apparently han no functioning business purpose?
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:52 pm to fwtex
PP's main line of business is abortion. Period. It's what the financial data says. While they offer other services, it is like saying a baseball stadium offers other services besides the actual game. Just like the ball game is why the stadium exists, abortion is why PP exists.
For every one planned parenthood, there are 2 other women health clinics out there (ones that don't perform abortions). PP is not some lifesaver that is filling a need no other orgs fill.
To PP supporters, abortion isn't a necessary evil, it is a beautiful expression of female empowerment. A death cult, at taxpayer expense.
Plenty of states, especially in the south, have defunded PP with zero decline in female access to women health needs.
For every one planned parenthood, there are 2 other women health clinics out there (ones that don't perform abortions). PP is not some lifesaver that is filling a need no other orgs fill.
To PP supporters, abortion isn't a necessary evil, it is a beautiful expression of female empowerment. A death cult, at taxpayer expense.
Plenty of states, especially in the south, have defunded PP with zero decline in female access to women health needs.
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:52 pm to fwtex
They give out 900 rubbers and perform 100 abortions and claim abortion is only 10 percent of their activity.
It's ludicrous.
It's ludicrous.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:54 pm to fwtex
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This I know is a touchy subject, even for conflicted Republican voters.
I guess I am the minority thinking killing babies is wrong.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:54 pm to fwtex
Society has to reject, more forcefully, the neoleftist idea that their every social preference is a “right” that must be endlessly funded by taxpayers. And that everyone that has different opinions about said “right” must be silenced and canceled.
We debate the policy without really doing enough to push back on the extremism attached to the policy.
We debate the policy without really doing enough to push back on the extremism attached to the policy.
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:56 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:yep. You see this lie repeated on here by pro abortionists as well. ("pp does a lot of other stuff besides abortion")
They give out 900 rubbers and perform 100 abortions and claim abortion is only 10 percent of their activity.
It's an example of using faulty, misleading stats.
Abortion is the main source of revenue for PP clinics, in many cases being 60%+ of all revenue they earn in a fiscal year.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 2:05 pm to fwtex
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Lastly, was PP real source of revenue coming from the "products" from abortion they were selling? Is this why without abortion, PP apparently han no functioning business purpose?
Absolutely. Planned Parenthood Busted On Tape Trying To Sell Aborted Baby Body Parts
Dr. Deborah Nucatola, Planned Parenthood’s senior director for medical services, is caught on video bragging about how she aborts babies in such a way that their body parts and organs can later be sold for profit.
“We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part,” Nucatola tells actors posing as organ traffickers. “I’m gonna basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.”
These people are pure evil. Moloch would be pleased.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 2:13 pm to Prodigal Son
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Absolutely. Planned Parenthood Busted On Tape Trying To Sell Aborted Baby Body Parts
that's how they make their REAL money
Posted on 3/2/24 at 3:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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To PP supporters, abortion isn't a necessary evil, it is a beautiful expression of female empowerment. A death cult, at taxpayer expense.
This has done more to turn me away from the pro-choice movement than anything. People use to be pro-choice. Now they're pro-abortion.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 3:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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PP's main line of business is abortion. Period. It's what the financial data says
Yet proponents of PP always claim “abortion is a very small segment of our business”
Posted on 3/3/24 at 11:16 am to fwtex
The reason I brought this subject up is that here in the Dallas area, the Democrats are now fully comfortable in their political seats. This is the first primary I have seen Democrats promoting the far left endorsements, of which is PP.
Ted Cruz is going to have bigger battle for Senate this election against Collin Alred. Alred is the opposite personality of Cruz and his campaign is going to be solely based on the abortion and women's health rights. He will get 100% of the Democrat votes so Cruz is going to have to depend on Republicans and independents not being single issue voters.
Ted Cruz is going to have bigger battle for Senate this election against Collin Alred. Alred is the opposite personality of Cruz and his campaign is going to be solely based on the abortion and women's health rights. He will get 100% of the Democrat votes so Cruz is going to have to depend on Republicans and independents not being single issue voters.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 11:23 am to fwtex
Conservatives have this pipe dream that abolishing abortion opportunities will create a harmonious and thriving society. But taking a quick look at our border makes you wonder if this belief is possible or just a dream.
Humans are never going to change, no matter where you come from.
Humans are never going to change, no matter where you come from.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 11:43 am to fwtex
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The reason I brought this subject up is that here in the Dallas area, the Democrats are now fully comfortable in their political seats. This is the first primary I have seen Democrats promoting the far left endorsements, of which is PP.
You’re in the early stages of what has happened here in California. The dems use abortion like a sledgehammer out here and it works. It will end up tied into women’s rights and also connected to how you Neanderthals are against women, period. Hell they’re running an ad out here on how it is in line with their faith. It portrays a Hispanic family at the dinner table praying over dinner… and abortion. Abortion is okay, God understands! It’s coming your way ladies and gents it’s just a matter of time. When they have full control of things the mask comes off and then you find out how bad they are.
This post was edited on 3/3/24 at 11:49 am
Posted on 3/3/24 at 11:45 am to fwtex
Don't forget, they donate hundreds of thousands to the Pedocrats.
https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/C00314617/candidate-recipients/2020
https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/C00314617/candidate-recipients/2020
Posted on 3/3/24 at 1:34 pm to fwtex
You don’t have all the facts. Planned parenthood does a lot more than abortion. They provide contraception and educate young people on sexual and reproductive health.
My wife volunteered in the PP legal department several years ago, that’s where I learned the full scope of their services.
My wife volunteered in the PP legal department several years ago, that’s where I learned the full scope of their services.
Posted on 3/3/24 at 1:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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have defunded PP with zero decline in female access to women health needs.
How DARE you take away my access to life saving womens health!!?!
WhiTe mEn ShoUlDnT bE mAkInG chOiCeS aBoUt WomENs bOdIeZzzZ
Posted on 3/3/24 at 1:48 pm to fwtex
Planned Parenthood has as much to do with becoming a parent as
The Inflation Reduction Act had to do with reducing inflation
Or
The Affordable Care Act had to do with making healthcare affordable
The Inflation Reduction Act had to do with reducing inflation
Or
The Affordable Care Act had to do with making healthcare affordable
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