re: Democrats Identifying as "Religious" drops 20 points in last two decades

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If you attend a church that promotes the Democratic Party principles, you are not attending a Church. You are simply attending a meeting of like minded Democrats that worship Satan.

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Might you be splitting hairs here?

2 Samuel 24:

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1Again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, “Go, number Israel and Judah.” 2So the king said to Joab, the commander of the army,a who was with him, “Go through all the tribes of Israel, from Dan to Beersheba, and number the people, that I may know the number of the people.” 3But Joab said to the king, “May the LORD your God add to the people a hundred times as many as they are, while the eyes of my lord the king still see it, but why does my lord the king delight in this thing?”

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1 Chronicles 21:

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1Then Satan stood against Israel and incited David to number Israel. 2So David said to Joab and the commanders of the army, “Go, number Israel, from Beersheba to Dan, and bring me a report, that I may know their number.” 3But Joab said, “May the LORD add to his people a hundred times as many as they are! Are they not, my lord the king, all of them my lord’s servants? Why then should my lord require this? Why should it be a cause of guilt for Israel?”

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Either the LORD and Satan are the same character, or the priestly Chronicler didn’t like how the story was written with the LORD being evil, so he changed it to Satan.

I’m sure my favorite apologist nut will explain it by offering up his mental gymnastics that are not supporting in scripture.

Regarding the subject of this thread. My take is that the majority of democrats are low IQ, and that it would be better for them to worship an imaginary man in the sky than worshipping the government and suckling from the taxpayers.

Go do what your imaginary sky daddy commands and go convert the dregs of society. Our country would be a better place, in all seriousness.

I will acknowledge real characteristics of natural phenomena if reasonably proven by the overwhelming preponderance of evidence.

If it’s true Jesus was never killed, but rather taken up bodily into heaven by the one true God, in the same way Enoch, Moses, and Elijah ascended to heaven, and that Mohammed is that last and final prophet of the God of Abraham, and he corrected all the mistakes of the previous prophets, would you be a follower of the Prophet (pbuh) and worship the one true God, and no longer be a polytheist?

If not, why?

Democrats SAY things.

That's it. They never offer solutions. Never focus on SOLVING anything.


"See those people over there? They're the bad people. Deplorables. Irredeemables. We're here to help you from being attacked by "them". Time THEY pay their fair share!".

No one is attacking anyone, but the Dems. All they do is divide and vilify fellow Americans.

Eventually, all democrats believe they are or can create God.

Seems to be the trend of the whole world

Have cast their lot with Caesar - decades ago

Been saying that about abortion for years. Still baffles me that people can not see and understand

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Hard to fill your cup with progressivism if it's already full of religion.

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That is an excellent point. If you have a faith, you're far less likely to be susceptible to cultural whims and changes and accept moral relativism and marxist ideology.

Hence communist countries outlawing religion.

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Now, to be somewhat fair to Democrats, many more identify as "spiritual,"

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Yeah, that doesn't mean squat.

"Spiritual" is just something that people say when they are unwilling to embrace a set of beliefs that doesn't allow them to do whatever they want to do whenever they want to do it, and with whom.

"Spiritual" just means you are your own god.

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Oh, horseshite. Religiosity has a positive correlation to a broad host of negative social measures (crime, poverty, teen pregnancy, etc) both in the US and throughout the world. Western Europe, where religiosity is far lower than the US, beats the US handily in those negative social measures. And while atheists make up a significant percentage of the overall population, they make up <1% of the prison population.

Turns out dumb superstitious people are more prone to be criminals than atheists are. Don’t blame your problems on us.

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You might have to post some links to substantiate that. Because RAND says the opposite: Higher crime, less religiosity

I know that was from 2010, but I am not seeing what you're claiming when I search. At least not as applied to the US.

And when I search the teen pregnancy claim I don't see that higher religiosity is correlated with higher teen PREGNANCY rates, I see that it is correlated with higher teen BIRTH rates. Which is obviously because the teens with a foundation for values do not abort at the same rate.

Here's a paper that says that religiosity has a positive impact on financial income: Southern Utah University

Again, there are Google results that indicate that the poorer someone is, the more likely they will be to have higher degrees of religiosity, but that's not the same thing as saying that adherence to religion makes you poor. It's almost certainly the other way around...the poorer you are, the fewer distractions you have from confronting the spiritual realities you face.

So I'm not claiming you won't be able to produce substantiation, but you haven't yet, and so far what i have seen (in a few quick searches) leave me skeptical.

You guys like skepticism, right? And demanding actual proof instead of unsubstantiated claims?