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re: Democrat Atlanta mayor believes bullets fired in the air fall as fast as they first ascend
Posted on 5/1/23 at 12:18 pm to blueboy
Posted on 5/1/23 at 12:18 pm to blueboy
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Yes. It is. I used to report on falling bullet fatalities and injuries every single year on New Years Day because of the 'tradition' many people have of shooting into the air to ring in the new year, especially in New Orleans.
In the air.. at a high angle.. doesn’t leave enough energy to be automatically fatal. It would have to be an extreme circumstance.
A low angle still leaves trouble. Such as a 20 times arrested gangbanger shoving it out of the window firing it off in a drive by and it firing just above the horizon. Which is what that was. Not high angle fire. Low angle fire that was actually intended for a target and they missed.
And going through like it did.. it was probably not “miles away”. It was probably close enough to hear it.
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 12:21 pm to CleverUserName
quote:It's not that far off. The only real difference is air friction and some complex fluid dynamics stuff in the air. In a vacuum it is identical
Democrat Atlanta mayor believes bullets fired in the air fall as fast as they first ascend
Posted on 5/1/23 at 12:31 pm to CleverUserName
For those who have played baseball. When you catch a pop up in Little League, you see it coming down but you don't really hear it.
Then when you advance to older leagues and the pop ups are extremely high, you hear that ball coming at you with a woooshing sound. The air resistance only creates sound as the ball is picking up speed from falling a greater distance.
Then when you advance to older leagues and the pop ups are extremely high, you hear that ball coming at you with a woooshing sound. The air resistance only creates sound as the ball is picking up speed from falling a greater distance.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 12:34 pm to Nono
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has been all red ever since.
???
Posted on 5/1/23 at 12:36 pm to highcotton2
prolly meant "all blue"
Posted on 5/1/23 at 12:40 pm to Zach
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Then when you advance to older leagues and the pop ups are extremely high, you hear that ball coming at you with a woooshing sound
Fun fact, terminal velocity of a baseball is about 95 mph.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 12:51 pm to CleverUserName
Guess she has never seen the movie Terminal Velocity
Posted on 5/1/23 at 12:53 pm to Zach
Are we talking about pop-ups straight up in the air that allows the full kinetic energy of the ball to be exhausted prior to descending? Or something that was launched more like on a 50-60 degree angle that has not exhausted all of the kinetic energy?
Posted on 5/1/23 at 12:59 pm to VolcanicTiger
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It's not that far off.
Well, a bullet leaving a firearm will be leaving at 1000-3000 fps.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Any relation to this great scholar fro GA?
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:There are a few different ways to explain it, but the simplest is maybe this:
Well, a bullet leaving a firearm will be leaving at 1000-3000 fps.
At 3000fps, in a vacuum if the bullet is shot straight up, it will take about 93 seconds before it stops ascending.
3000 fps = 914.4 m/s, G is 9.8 m/s^2
So every second, the velocity loses 9.8 m/s. 914.4/9.8 = 93.3 seconds
Now it will fall for 93.3 seconds and ramp that velocity back up to 3000 fps as it hits where the muzzle opening was.
If you don't shoot it straight up, you lose some energy to the horizontal component, and air slows it down in both the ascent and descent in any case, so reduce all the numbers, but it's still high.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:43 pm to yimbo
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Extremely popular republican Marjorie Taylor Green thinks there’s a Jewish space laser.
Have to protect themselves from the Nazi space station on the moon.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:51 pm to mtb010
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Are we talking about pop-ups straight up in the air that allows the full kinetic energy of the ball to be exhausted prior to descending? Or something that was launched more like on a 50-60 degree angle that has not exhausted all of the kinetic energy?
A very high fly ball or pop up made a lot louder wooosh than a fly ball with an lower apex. And you really only heard it when it was about 50 feet from your glove.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:54 pm to VolcanicTiger
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and air slows it down in both the ascent and descent in any case, so reduce all the numbers, but it's still high.
Terminal velocity of a .30 bullet is about 300 fps.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:57 pm to VolcanicTiger
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At 3000fps, in a vacuum if the bullet is shot straight up, it will take about 93 seconds before it stops ascending. 3000 fps = 914.4 m/s, G is 9.8 m/s^2 So every second, the velocity loses 9.8 m/s. 914.4/9.8 = 93.3 seconds Now it will fall for 93.3 seconds and ramp that velocity back up to 3000 fps as it hits where the muzzle opening was.
Totally lost me there
Posted on 5/1/23 at 2:04 pm to Leto II
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Totally lost me there
He's correct...
Strangely, in a vacuum, you fire the bullet almost parabolically straight up, the round reaches the top and goes almost 0 velocity, etc...then it regains its energy as it comes back down...
BUT if you're on a super tall ladder right at the top and touch it with a feather...
It only falls at terminal velocity...the feather absorbs all potential energy.
Physics is gay as frick
ETA: I'm quoting Dr Chen, who speaks 7 languages at the same fricking time so I might have jumbled it a bit.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 5/1/23 at 2:11 pm to highcotton2
quote:That's over 200 MPH still. Probably not enough to cause expansion but enough to kill someone at the right angle.
Terminal velocity of a .30 bullet is about 300 fps.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 2:16 pm to CleverUserName
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A falling bullet from the sky is not lethal. At all.
Jesus H
Then why have people been killed by them?
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 5/1/23 at 2:18 pm to Trojan15
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I would think the dumb part is likely fired miles away
yeah this is the piece that sticks out to me...as if some whitey shot a gun in the air from whitey-ville ATL and hit her nephews room. Couldn't have been some random drive by she won't speak about in the neighborhood.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 2:19 pm to SG_Geaux
Has anyone considered that maybe, the nephew was playing with a gun in his bed, it went off, went through the wall, and he lied to cover his own arse?
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