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re: Dem Rep Jared Moskowitz calls out MJ. Will you still fund corruption found by DOGE?

Posted on 2/14/25 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 2:32 pm to
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Slow Mo Fo


Geez, you're so damn dishonest. Why can't you just admit that you have TDS and you're against practically everything President Trump is trying to do?

Try being REAL for once. It's not like you have anybody here fooled.

Who did you vote for last November? I know you claim to have voted for Ye in 2020. LOL!

Posted by Larry_Hotdogs
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:28 pm to
I enjoy downvoting you so much. Just thought you should know.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:29 pm to
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None of that excuses $40b in fraud


USAID? Not fraud.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:30 pm to
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nice static analysis dipshit


I'm sorry math offends you so
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:30 pm to
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USAID? Not fraud.


You would be wrong as usual
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:31 pm to
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Face it, either you accept that it's lawfare


Oh boy, a new definition is added to the list
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:33 pm to
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And if this doesn’t happen?

Then it likely won't be good news for us.

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Oh well, do nothing,

It's funny you just relied on strawman inception there

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Just go down with the ship?

The ship is going down without real action that must be done at the Congressional level.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:33 pm to
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n one of my primary fears about hyping it up


Why the hell would you care? You aren’t a Republican.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:36 pm to
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You would be wrong as usual


That $40B is authorized by Congressional statute. That's not fraud.

Waste? Yes.

Fraud? No.

As I've pointed out, it's flashy things for the easily distracted to focus on so they don't have to focus on the real discussions, because those are difficult and don't work as much with a populist mentality.

Just look at Trump attacking RDS in the primaries over reasonable modifications to SS/Medicare.

I literally posted the campaign platforms from Agenda 47 that specifically do not address the programs that have to be cut for this to work.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:36 pm to
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It's funny you just relied on strawman inception there


Well, what would the other options be?

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The ship is going down without real action that must be done at the Congressional level.


Not necessarily.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:37 pm to
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Why the hell would you care? You aren’t a Republican.

In this discussion I'm not a "Republican" because I want less liberal public spending policies than "Republicans", so label me as you wish.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:38 pm to
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Waste? Yes. Fraud? No.


Fraud can be waste. Both can exist together.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:38 pm to
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Oh boy, a new definition is added to the list


It's lawfare (virtue signaling to the progressive base) or your original take on the matter is incorrect because DOGE is doing more than just virtue signaling.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:39 pm to
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Not necessarily.

Run the math for me.

I posted the 2023 budget breakdown already

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We could cut all non-defense spending to $0, cut defense spending in half, and account for the $236B in wasteful spending found (which gives a double bonus as much of this was included in the non-defense spending, so it's counted twice largely, but it also accounts for the Medicare/Medicaid/SS waste) and it would cut 1.5T or so in spending.

We're still $200B in the hole, and that's not including the debt expansion due to interest rates rising.


LINK

It's only going to be worse in 2024.

We can't grow our economy out of this mess. Again, the math does not work. Our economy would need to grow roughly 8.5T annually just to make up the 1.7T deficit in 2023. Again, the 2024 deficit will be bigger.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:41 pm to
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Fraud can be waste. Both can exist together.

Theoretically? Sure. That hasn't been shown yet. Only the waste.

It's being spun as "Fraud" to get emotional reacts from the echo chamber.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:41 pm to
In all discussions you aren’t a republican.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:43 pm to
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Theoretically? Sure. That hasn't been shown yet. Only the waste. It's being spun as "Fraud" to get emotional reacts from the echo chamber.


What would make it fraud IYO? I bet there are hearings going on right now that would be about legit fraud
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:43 pm to
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In all discussions you aren’t a republican.


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In this discussion I'm not a "Republican" because I want less liberal public spending policies than "Republicans", so label me as you wish.


Labels don't really mean much to me. Policies and principles do.
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:44 pm to
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SlowFlowPro


Please let me help you. This is getting embarrassing. How can I make passive aggressive comments about being an Ali winner as you’re circling the drain.



Give these nurses a shot. Tell them I sent you.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:46 pm to
Of course they don’t until they do.

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