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re: Definitive #Obamagate Timeline (8PM 3/17 Update)
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:06 am to joshnorris14
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:06 am to joshnorris14
Could one of you Trumpkins give me your theory on why James Comey, a Republican FBI Director who helped put Trump in the White House, is so clearly breaking with the Trump administration and insisting there was no phone tap in Trump Tower?
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 11:07 am
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:08 am to montanagator
He didn't insist that there was no phone tap. He insisted Obama didn't order a phone tap
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:08 am to montanagator
"Helped put trump in the WH"
Give me a break.
Do you forget he cleared her TWICE?
Give me a break.
Do you forget he cleared her TWICE?
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:09 am to montanagator
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so clearly breaking with the Trump administration and insisting there was no phone tap in Trump Tower?
He doesn't have any friends left and is trying to save his image of impartiality, by whatever means necessary.
Meanwhile the left claims there are transcripts of Flynn talking to the Russian Ambassador. How is there a transcript without wiretapping?
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:23 am to joshnorris14
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When the U.S. Attorney General determines that an emergency exists, the Attorney General may authorize the emergency employment of electronic surveillance before obtaining the necessary authorization from the FISC, if the Attorney General or their designee notifies a judge of the court at the time of authorization and applies for a warrant as soon as practicable but not more than 7 days after authorization of such surveillance, as required by 50 U.S.C. § 1805.
Interesting, So Lynch could have been tapping his phones a week prior to getting rejected by the first FISA ruling.
I guess they deleted all that stuff.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 11:41 am to MrLarson
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Interesting, So Lynch could have been tapping his phones a week prior to getting rejected by the first FISA ruling.
I guess they deleted all that stuff.
Rumor has it that the first warrant that was rejected named Donald J Trump himself. Intradesting
Posted on 3/6/17 at 1:16 pm to joshnorris14
Should I add the tarmac meeting in June between Bill and Loretta?
Posted on 3/6/17 at 1:18 pm to joshnorris14
So it's all FAKE news until you need to quote it for your timeline?
If there was a court approved tap, Trump is screwed and the FBI is just getting all their stuff in order before they release the news.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 1:20 pm to LSUcjb318
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So it's all FAKE news until you need to quote it for your timeline?
Grown ups are discussing things, be quiet.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 1:45 pm to joshnorris14
quote:YES. Also add Hillary's tweets after the meetings in regards to the computer scientists
Should I add the tarmac meeting in June between Bill and Loretta?
Posted on 3/6/17 at 1:50 pm to AuburnTigers
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lso add Hillary's tweets after the meetings in regards to the computer scientists
I don't think that has any relevance. She was citing an article from Slate
Posted on 3/6/17 at 1:59 pm to LSUcjb318
quote:if there was something found we would have heard about it by now. Everyone with inside knowledge has said there is no evidence in connection between Trump and the Russians
If there was a court approved tap, Trump is screwed and the FBI is just getting all their stuff in order before they release the news
Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:02 pm to LSUcjb318
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Trump is screwed and the FBI is just getting all their stuff in order before they release the news.
FBI already said that they found nothing.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:03 pm to dewster
There are multiple *ongoing* FBI investigations.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:14 pm to LSUcjb318
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So it's all FAKE news until you need to quote it for your timeline?
Exactly..fake news. If they are NOT fake, then the reports over the last year about Trump & associates being tied to Russia & being investigated/tapped/monitored are true... correct?
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:19 pm to LSUcjb318
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Was the meetings about sanctions and the 2016 campaign?
The FBI has already come out and said there's nothing to be found you fricking idiot.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:23 pm to joshnorris14
I think this article sheds some extra light on the active investigations:
Reuters - February 18, 2017
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The U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation is pursuing at least three separate probes relating to alleged Russian hacking of the U.S. presidential elections, according to five current and former government officials with direct knowledge of the situation.
While the fact that the FBI is investigating had been reported previously by the New York Times and other media, these officials shed new light on both the precise number of inquires and their focus.
The FBI's Pittsburgh field office, which runs many cyber security investigations, is trying to identify the people behind breaches of the Democratic National Committee's computer systems, the officials said. Those breaches, in 2015 and the first half of 2016, exposed the internal communications of party officials as the Democratic nominating convention got underway and helped undermine support for Hillary Clinton.
The Pittsburgh case has progressed furthest, but Justice Department officials in Washington believe there is not enough clear evidence yet for an indictment, two of the sources said.
Meanwhile the bureau’s San Francisco office is trying to identify the people who called themselves “Guccifer 2” and posted emails stolen from Clinton campaign manager John Podesta’s account, the sources said. Those emails contained details about fundraising by the Clinton Foundation and other topics.
Beyond the two FBI field offices, FBI counterintelligence agents based in Washington are pursuing leads from informants and foreign communications intercepts, two of the people said.
This counterintelligence inquiry includes but is not limited to examination of financial transactions by Russian individuals and companies who are believed to have links to Trump associates. The transactions under scrutiny involve investments by Russians in overseas entities that appear to have been undertaken through middlemen and front companies, two people briefed on the probe said.
Reuters - February 18, 2017
Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:30 pm to Decatur
First attempt to spy on the Trump campaign:
Second attempt to spy on Trump campaign::
3rd time's a charm:
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To summarize, reporting indicates that, prior to June 2016, the Obama Justice Department and FBI considered a criminal investigation of Trump associates, and perhaps Trump himself, based on concerns about connections to Russian financial institutions. Preliminary poking around indicated that there was nothing criminal involved. Rather than shut the case down, though, the Obama Justice Department converted it into a national-security investigation under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). FISA allows the government, if it gets court permission, to conduct electronic surveillance (which could include wiretapping, monitoring of e-mail, and the like) against those it alleges are “agents of a foreign power.”
Second attempt to spy on Trump campaign::
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In June, the Obama Justice Department submitted an application that apparently “named” Trump in addition to some of his associates. As I have stressed, it is unclear whether “named” in this context indicates that Trump himself was cited as a person the Justice Department was alleging was a Russian agent whom it wanted to surveil. It could instead mean that Trump’s name was merely mentioned in an application that sought to conduct surveillance on other alleged Russian agents. President Trump’s tweets on Saturday claimed that “President Obama . . . tapp[ed] my phones[,]” which makes it more likely that Trump was targeted for surveillance, rather than merely mentioned in the application.
In any event, the FISA court reportedly turned down the Obama Justice Department’s request, which is notable: The FISA court is notoriously solicitous of government requests to conduct national-security surveillance.
3rd time's a charm:
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Not taking no for an answer, the Obama Justice Department evidently returned to the FISA court in October 2016, the critical final weeks of the presidential campaign. This time, the Justice Department submitted a narrowly tailored application that did not mention Trump. The court apparently granted it, authorizing surveillance of some Trump associates. It is unknown whether that surveillance is still underway, but the New York Times has identified – again, based on illegal leaks of classified information – at least three of its targets: Paul Manafort (the former Trump campaign chairman who was ousted in August), and two others whose connection to the Trump campaign was loose at best, Manafort’s former political-consulting business partner Roger Stone, and investor Carter Page. The Times report (from mid-January) includes a lot of heavy breathing about potential ties between the Trump campaign and Russia; but it ultimately concedes that the government’s FISA investigation may have nothing to do with Trump, the campaign, or alleged Russian efforts to interfere in the U.S. election by hacking e-mail accounts.
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