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Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:27 am to SlowFlowPro
Did you post it, or was it an involuntary post?
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:29 am to bgtiger
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Did you post it, or was it an involuntary post?
I posted a summary of the FBI's report. It's not my own commentary.
You're calling me a troll based on what the FBI said. You're taking issues with the report Trump cited last night and are taking it out on me for exposing the dishonesty in OP (and others dishonestly summarizing it). It's such a strange behavior. In a rational world I'd expect people to be happy when the truth is revealed and dishonesty exposed.
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:32 am to mggmd
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DU has not put out any talking points yet on the Border Patrol part of the story
Which document released last night involved this "Border patrol part of the story"?
This is what AI tells me about this set of documents:
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Based on the provided sources, there is no direct reference to the Border Patrol.
However, there are references to related topics regarding border and immigration issues. Specifically, one document outlines China's plans to exploit U.S. societal fissures related to **immigration policies** ahead of the 2020 election. These plans allegedly included:
* Inciting dissatisfaction within migrant communities.
* Instigating demonstrations against the U.S. government for alleged human rights violations against immigrants.
* Inflaming resentment between anti-immigrant and pro-immigrant groups.
* Instigating anti-immigration demonstrations.
Additionally, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which oversees the U.S. Border Patrol, is listed as one of the agencies that received the FBI information report regarding the alleged fraudulent driver's licenses.
Can you reference, in the documents released last night, the specific document/text to which you're referring?
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:33 am to SlowFlowPro
I think this is a fair take.
LINK
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Trump, in the midst of a rapidly escalating war with Iran, had nothing better to do on Thursday night than launch a verbal attack on China for alleged meddling in the 2020 election. Now let me state up front that I believe the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump, but it was not because of foreign influence. It was good old fashioned ballot stuffing. In fact, Trump’s own DOJ and the FBI have been gathering evidence in Georgia that is likely to confirm that Georgia defrauded Trump. But that’s another story for another day.
Tonight, Thursday, Trump gave a roughly 30-minute primetime address from the East Room and made the following claims:
Voter file theft. Trump said voter registration files in 18 states, totaling 220 million voter files, were “bought, stolen, or hacked by China,” and that China “carried out what is believed to be the largest compromise of election data in history.” The files, he said, included names, addresses, and political affiliations. He called it an “unprecedented election security nightmare.” He attributed the intelligence to a White House task force and the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board.
Ballot manufacturing. He claimed Chinese meddling activities “included an attempt to manufacture illegal ballots” for Biden.
Cover-up. He said the “deep state” worked to hide the “extent of China’s sinister election meddling,” and that the intelligence community did not previously inform the White House or Congress about the hack.
Motive. He claimed China did not want him to win reelection — “They fought like hell not to have a Donald Trump to win” — and suggested Chinese meddling put Biden in office.
Machines. He said forthcoming documents would show foreign nations and groups had the ability to modify the behavior and information collected by electronic voting machines. He also revived unproven claims that Venezuela sought to tinker with American elections.
But note what he did not claim and cannot prove — i.e., that China printed ballots with Biden pre-selected and stuffed those ballots into several states, which gave the victory to Biden. Good Lord!! What a load of horse manure. Not a single piece of evidence that China inserted votes or manipulated votes, yet many who watched Trump came away convinced that China is the enemy and must be dealt with harshly. What Trump did tonight is one of the most ghastly examples of propaganda designed to stir up enmity.
At a time when the US is utterly dependent on China for rare-earth minerals Trump decided it was a good time to insult them and threaten them. I had thought that Trump had reached the nadir when it comes to diplomacy… Color me wrong, he achieved a new low with this. I would not be surprised if China doubles-down on its support for Iran in order to ensure the US suffers a humiliating defeat
LINK
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:35 am to Bunk Moreland
Yeah there isn't much actual meat on the bones. It was clearly just a rally for the SAVE Act.
Lots of potential and attempted actions, but nothing about any of this actually happening, let alone that it happened to help Biden/hurt Trump.
It's not a 0 on the impact scale, but it's nowhere near significant in terms of tactile results, and it does nothing for the 2020 fraud/Q allegations.
Lots of potential and attempted actions, but nothing about any of this actually happening, let alone that it happened to help Biden/hurt Trump.
It's not a 0 on the impact scale, but it's nowhere near significant in terms of tactile results, and it does nothing for the 2020 fraud/Q allegations.
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:39 am to SlowFlowPro
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Why are you trying to change the subject of this thread?
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Declassified documents: Chinese manufacturing drivers licenses for mail in ballots
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:40 am to jchamil
He's trying to talk about stuff that is not in those declassified documents.
I'm trying to keep the focus on the declassified documents.
I'm trying to keep the focus on the declassified documents.
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:41 am to SlowFlowPro
Repeating this lie does not make it true.
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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I can't help myself pointing out dishonesty, no.
Apparently your heightened sense of morality will let you tap dance around answering a direct question, because you know it will expose you. You have no problem parsing words, and yet hold yourself up to be a paragon of virtue. You're the precise reason why lawyer jokes are made, Counselor.
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:43 am to BoarEd
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Repeating this lie does not make it true.
Which document released last night are you referencing? I'll go read it
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:44 am to SlowFlowPro
No, no, no, I'm calling you a troll because you threw it out there as a counter to what the President says was happening. The same FBI who worked nefariously and criminally to keep him from being President the first time and you keep posting this like it closes the fricking case on the 2020 election. These motherfrickers staged an insurrection to seed the defense AGAINST these accusations of voter fraud by framing Trump for that too. You are an idiot troll.
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:46 am to bgtiger
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No, no, no, I'm calling you a troll because you threw it out there as a counter to what the President says was happening.
He was referencing the exact same documents I am discussing.
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The same FBI who worked nefariously and criminally to keep him from being President the first time and you keep posting this like it closes the fricking case on the 2020 election. These motherfrickers staged an insurrection to seed the defense AGAINST these accusations of voter fraud by framing Trump for that too.
Trump is the one relying on an FBI report to make the claims about the Chinese manufactured DL. You realize that, right?
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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That's was the FBI assessment
Which was compromised under Trump's first term and during Biden's illegal presidency. Did you miss the part where these kinds of intelligence were deliberately held back from Trump?
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:52 am to SlowFlowPro
Thanks. So, more to the point, China has the voter data, showing who votes and who doesn't (normally) and produced these ID's that could potentially have been used, but weren't, maybe because the logistics were daunting and Dems likely got cold feet due to stepped up vote monitoring by Republican organizations.
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:54 am to BHTiger
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The anti-Americans are out in full force today.
Imagine hating Donald Trump so much you don’t care about election cheating.
Then calling yourself an American
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:55 am to riccoar
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Which was compromised under Trump's first term and during Biden's illegal presidency.
So you're saying the FBI report on the Chinese DLs itself is compromised?
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:55 am to HubbaBubba
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and produced these ID's
Where are you getting this?
Posted on 7/17/26 at 8:59 am to texag7
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Imagine hating Donald Trump so much you don’t care about election cheating.
Did Trump discuss any specific cheating in American elections last night?
Maybe the isolated incident in Michigan (Which was already investigated and closed)? Other than that, anything?
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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Where are you getting this?
I've already presented you that information in this very thread, you dishonest frick stick.
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