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re: Death toll from Moscow concert hall attack rises to 133.

Posted on 3/23/24 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 2:30 pm to
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Yesterday was a straight up terrorist attack, not war.


No question.

Russia bombed numerous apartment complexes in Ukraine. Also terrorism.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26480 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 2:33 pm to
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No, but its 1000x more understandable than Chechens (and other sub humans) doing their normal killing of random victims while pretending its political.

No, it really isn't. Irrational islamic terrorism is way more understandable than Ukraine doing this.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26480 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 2:34 pm to
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What about knowingly attacking civilian targets inside a country you are invading? Is that cool?

No. But what on earth does that have to do with this situation?

Or are you on the momentoftruth and SDVTiger tier of retard that doesn't understand that two things can be true at the same time?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260941 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 2:36 pm to
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No, it really isn't. Irrational islamic terrorism is way more understandable than Ukraine doing this.



We firebombed Japanese and German civilians in terror attacks. and have justified them for decades.

I would understand Ukraine hitting Russian civilians to put pressure on them.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26480 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 2:38 pm to
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We firebombed Japanese and German civilians in terror attacks. and have justified them for decades.

And it is still justified. They were squarely aimed at removing those countries ability and willingness to sustain a war that had already been raging worldwide for multiple years.

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I would understand Ukraine hitting Russian civilians to put pressure on them.

No, putting people into a crowd of random civilians and gunning them down at a concert is not the same thing. Plus, it would be the absolute dumbest possible thing imaginable to do from Ukraine's perspective. So if they did it, they are the dumbest MFers alive.
This post was edited on 3/23/24 at 2:40 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260941 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 2:40 pm to
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No, putting people into a crowd of random civilians and gunning them down at a concert is not the same thing


Thats just your opinion,

One is done en masse from 29,000', the other within eyesight.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99141 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 2:45 pm to
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Those guys should have offed themselves but I’m glad they didn’t.


That’s because they were paid mercenaries and not ideological terrorists.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26480 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 2:47 pm to
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One is done en masse from 29,000', the other within eyesight.

One involves a legitimate military purpose, and in almost all cases involved military targets, that simply had to occur at scale because of the limitations on precision bombing in that time.

The other has zero military purpose or intent and is solely meant to kill civilians for the purpose of killing civilians and inciting terror. Nothing about this attack degraded Russia’s ability to make war, nor was it designed to do so.
This post was edited on 3/23/24 at 2:49 pm
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
10743 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35420 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 4:33 pm to
Yeah, just 9/11 and a bunch of plane bombings. That's all.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260941 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 4:43 pm to
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Yeah, just 9/11 and a bunch of plane bombings.


Obama armed ISIS.

Nefarious stuff happened in Libya, you may have heard about some of it.
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
9230 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 4:44 pm to
So Americans were terrorists during WW2?


That is total war. Russians left dead civilians all over the place during the invasion. I’ve got no dog in the fight, but this is tit for tat imo.
This post was edited on 3/23/24 at 4:45 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260941 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 4:45 pm to
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One involves a legitimate military purpose


US firebombings were terror attacks aimed at demoralizing civilians.
This post was edited on 3/23/24 at 4:45 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26480 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 4:45 pm to
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So America were terrorists during WW2?

Nope.
Posted by Audustxx
Member since Jul 2022
1102 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 4:45 pm to
Always wondered what would be the reason ( other than a hook in their mouth) that gog would in mass march into middle east
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34234 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 4:50 pm to
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REG861


You are probably happy that innocent people were killed.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260941 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 4:51 pm to
I was gonna say, if someone were a biblical prophecy guy, this one is falling right in line.

Almost eerie.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34234 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 4:54 pm to
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If it is, AND Ukraine had any part in the planning, Ukrainian support from the West is toast.


You sure?

I mean, Ukraine allegedly has troops that admire the Nazis.

That didn’t stop people.

Why do you feel that this will?
This post was edited on 3/23/24 at 4:55 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34234 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 4:59 pm to
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What about knowingly attacking civilian targets inside a country you are invading? Is that cool?


Did they?

Proof?

Now your boy Biden knowingly bombed a car full of children in Afghanistan.

You will probably say that is
(D)ifferent though.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112524 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 4:59 pm to
Speaking of Russian deaths I watched a fascinating video of objective assessments of Russian military deaths determined by leaks, graves, parents, friends of the soldiers.
The amazing stat was that 80% of the soldiers deployed in the invasion 2 years ago are no longer in the military.
They are either dead or injured beyond returning to service.
So, Russia is dealing with very young draftees on short training.


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