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re: Dear GA conservatives who slipped the runoff
Posted on 1/27/22 at 11:55 am to FooManChoo
Posted on 1/27/22 at 11:55 am to FooManChoo
tl;dr
Foo, are you going to vote this year?
Foo, are you going to vote this year?
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Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:03 pm to Indefatigable
Look I put in years of my life working and getting paid next to nothing to get people like Brian Kemp and Geoff Duncan and Raffensperger elected. I’ve been to every region of Georgia encouraging people to vote for them as an ambassador of the the new right I count myself a part of. I did all of that because I did believe in Trumps message and really thought he had a good chance to change the GOP for the better. I did all of this just to watch these pussies let the state burn and the city make up new rules for elections. So excuse me for being so disillusioned with our entire system and deciding to not want to take part in some banana republic election to elect a corporate dogs like Loeffler and Purdue. Now I get to watch people like Kemp, Duncan, and Raffensperger reap the consequences of their actions and face internal party revolt. It’s pretty satisfying from where I am sitting.
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:08 pm to Indefatigable
quote:You clearly don't understand what I'm saying so this will be the last thing I say about this: intelligence is not the issue here, the presuppositions, are.
Only if you lack intelligence and the ability to see more than 15 seconds into the future.
If you presuppose that the system is broken and voting does not matter in terms of the outcome, then it is not unintelligent to stop voting. In fact, you can say it's intelligent, since it is a reasoned response to what you believe to be true.
This is the last I'll say about it because you don't seem to understand my point and I've belabored it enough.
quote:If someone is misinformed, that doesn't mean they are stupid. There are a lot of intelligent people that are misinformed on things. Calling people "stupid" for reasoned (though misinformed) decisions is simply not an accurate description, which is why I said you should be more careful with your words.
Nope, not in any way is that my belief. I simply recognize that sitting out elections is peak stupidity. That people do so because they erroneously believe it is the right thing to do does not make the decision any less stupid.
quote:I'm convinced that you don't know what the word "stupid" means.
Yes they are. What makes them stupid in addition to shortsighted is that the GOP garnered more votes in the runoff. These idiots let their feelings on the POTUS election permeate their feelings on the Senate runoffs. That is unintelligent behavior.
Thank you for humoring me with this conversation.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:10 pm to deeprig9
quote:Probably.
Foo, are you going to vote this year?
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:11 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
Probably.
So you are a hypocrite?
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:12 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
intelligence is not the issue here, the presuppositions, are.
Low intelligence allowed these people’s presuppositions to prevent them from doing the intelligent and responsible thing.
Sorry. You don’t get a pass from being called stupid and shortsighted just because you really really really thought you were right. Only stupidity can result in choosing to not vote as a way to combat anything related to our election system or government. It is a low intelligence conclusion to reach.
Believing that not participating is a way to do anything other than handing your opponent an easier victory is stupid. It is not well reasoned, and it is not a result of misinformation. It is simply unintelligent behavior.
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:13 pm to deeprig9
quote:No.
So you are a hypocrite?
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:14 pm to Nigel Farage
quote:
Now I get to watch people like Kemp, Duncan, and Raffensperger reap the consequences of their actions and face internal party revolt.
Nothing will happen to any of these people. Kemp will be re-elected.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:16 pm to FooManChoo
I thought the intellectually honest thing to do was abstain from voting in rigged elections. Help me understand.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:16 pm to Indefatigable
quote:You think only stupid people believe(d) that our election system is broken?
Low intelligence allowed these people’s presuppositions to prevent them from doing the intelligent and responsible thing.
quote:You can say what you like, but I'm calling out the intellectual dishonesty of calling people "stupid" and "shortsighted" for acting in accordance with their beliefs on the matter. You wouldn't want those people to vote and make themselves hypocrites, would you?
Sorry. You don’t get a pass from being called stupid and shortsighted just because you really really really thought you were right.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:20 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
You think only stupid people believe(d) that our election system is broken?
Nope. But I think only stupid people believe not voting is a remedy. It is not an intelligent conclusion, no matter how convinced one is that they are right.
quote:
You can say what you like, but I'm calling out the intellectual dishonesty of calling people "stupid" and "shortsighted" for acting in accordance with their beliefs on the matter
I didn’t say they were insincere. A persons sincerely held beliefs can absolutely be stupid and shortsighted, no matter how hard the believe it.
quote:
You wouldn't want those people to vote and make themselves hypocrites, would you?
Believing that election reform is needed is not antithetical from voting in elections.
I expect adults of voting age to make actual reasoned, intelligent, and responsible decisions. Choosing to not vote is none of those things.
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:20 pm to deeprig9
quote:You've jumped from the 2020 elections and subsequent GA runoff to all elections in every state and county for every race.
I thought the intellectually honest thing to do was abstain from voting in rigged elections. Help me understand.
Some states do a better job than others at preventing and/or addressing fraud.
My commentary thus far has been about rationalizing those who decided not to vote in the GA runoff after what they witnessed in the 2020 elections. It was clear to a lot of people that GA was a state that allowed fraud to occur and didn't provide integrity in the voting process.
For the record, I don't live in GA and could not have even voted in that runoff.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:21 pm to Nigel Farage
quote:
Look I put in years of my life working and getting paid next to nothing to get people like Brian Kemp and Geoff Duncan and Raffensperger elected. I’ve been to every region of Georgia encouraging people to vote for them as an ambassador of the the new right I count myself a part of. I did all of that because I did believe in Trumps message and really thought he had a good chance to change the GOP for the better. I did all of this just to watch these pussies let the state burn and the city make up new rules for elections. So excuse me for being so disillusioned with our entire system and deciding to not want to take part in some banana republic election to elect a corporate dogs like Loeffler and Purdue. Now I get to watch people like Kemp, Duncan, and Raffensperger reap the consequences of their actions and face internal party revolt. It’s pretty satisfying from where I am sitting.
Be reasonable.
Raffy is done, Jody will destroy him in the primaries. In the general election, who knows.
Duncan? WGAF.
Kemp? As of this week, the polling still shows he's the favorite to win the primary. Perdue doesn't have the numbers right now. And besides, isn't Perdue some kind of RINO anyway, according this board? And if [when] Kemp goes on to the general election vs Abrams, you are going to poke out your bottom lip and sit on your hands and watch a card carrying communist puppet take complete executive control of the state, because your politicians aren't all perfect for you? Come on, man.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:23 pm to deeprig9
quote:
And if [when] Kemp goes on to the general election vs Abrams, you are going to poke out your bottom lip and sit on your hands and watch a card carrying communist puppet take complete executive control of the state, because your politicians aren't all perfect for you?
My guess is the answer is yes.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:23 pm to deeprig9
quote:
because your politicians aren't all perfect for you?
When you phrase it like this, it makes perfect sense.
When you phrase it like it really is, it makes less sense.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:24 pm to SDVTiger
quote:
Does it really matter?
Nope. The message sent was important
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:27 pm to lechateau
quote:
Nope. The message sent was important
What message? That a quarter million Georgia Republicans would rather take their ball and go home instead of winning an election?
Real strong and lasting message that is sure to make. /s
If anything, those in charge of Atlanta’s elections and Democrats in general are gleeful at this low-IQ message that these people sent.
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:28 pm to lechateau
Yes, it definitely doesn't matter that Biden has gotten a near blank check by having a slim majority in both houses.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:30 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
rationalizing those who decided not to vote in the GA runoff after what they witnessed in the 2020 elections.
It is not rational. By not voting you are absolutely unequivocally guaranteeing your vote will not count. And you really have no room to complain about anything the dems may do to you.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:33 pm to Indefatigable
quote:
in. That is not true. Perdue had more votes than Ossof, and the two Republicans combined had more votes than Warnock in the primary election. Only decreased Republican turnout in the runoff allowed the two Democratic candidates to win.
Trump had wayyyyyy more votes than Biden but it didn’t matter, did it?
The steal was already in.
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