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re: DC Circuit Rules against Trump re House Request for Tax Records

Posted on 10/11/19 at 9:36 am to
Posted by LSU Fan SLU Grad
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
4893 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 9:36 am to
Trump homers are delusional at this point. The wheels on this special needs bus are chaotically bouncing down the street.

This board is a cesspool of indignity. The dominos will fall.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85915 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 9:37 am to
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Reminder, this was a subpoena from a House committee to the accounting firm which prepares his taxes, not a request to Trump himself OR the Committee request direct to the IRS.
That's nice Clark real nice.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 9:38 am to
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So OP....no cliff notes with your twist on it? Why do they say this is constitutional, and based on what precedence?

Nobody got time to read thru this garbage.
Yeah, I’ve not had time in the last ten minutes to read a 134-page opinion either.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20931 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 9:41 am to
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This board is a cesspool of indignity. The dominos will fall.

Yall said the same bullshite before Muh Russia was known to be a hoax. You fell for that shite 100%

How pathetic.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 9:43 am to
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quote:

Reminder, this was a subpoena to the accounting firm which prepares his taxes, not a request to Trump himself OR the Committee request direct to the IRS.
They'd have done just as good to subpoena Trump's dog
not really.

In the New York case, the opinion made the affirmative statement that the accounting firm had taken no position regarding the discoverability of these documents. In essence, they see it as an interlpleader ... “Here are the documents, and we will produce them if ordered. You folks can fight it out. Just let us know.”

All of the opposition briefing came from Trumps own intervention in the lawsuit, along with Trump’s DoJ. I assume the same is the case here.

When all appeals run out, the accountants WILL produce the documents. I doubt the same is true of Trump.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46288 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 9:44 am to
Are the walls closing in?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85915 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 9:45 am to
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When all appeals run out, the accountants WILL produce the documents. I doubt the same is true of Trump.
LibbyHank you got heem!
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120293 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 9:49 am to
Do you have any clients?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
54049 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 9:52 am to
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Just saw the headline. More to come. UPDATE. 134-page opinion, 6 pages from the majority and 68 in the dissent. Reminder, this was a subpoena from a House committee to the accounting firm which prepares his taxes, not a request to Trump himself OR the Committee request direct to the IRS.


Seriously, who cares about Trump's tax returns? We've yet to incarcerate one damn Swamper and you TDS fueled loons are worried about Trump's tax returns? Focus Baw!!!
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 9:59 am to
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“we detect no inherent constitutional flaw in laws requiring Presidents to publicly disclose certain financial information. And that is enough. Without treading onto any other potentially fertile grounds from which constitutional legislation could flower, we conclude that given the constitutionally permissible options open to Congress in the field of financial disclosure, the challenged subpoena seeks ‘information about a subject on which legislation may be had.'”
Neoli Reo, a Trump nominee to the appeals court, dissented. Judge Tatel (who authored the opinion) was nominated by President Bill Clinton and Judge Patricia Millett, who joined him in the majority, was selected by President Barack Obama.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55430 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 10:01 am to
Are you about to get him this time?


Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55430 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 10:03 am to
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LibbyHank you got heem!






Posted by PickupAutist
Member since Sep 2018
3038 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 10:04 am to
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Trump homers are delusional at this point. The wheels on this special needs bus are chaotically bouncing down the street. This board is a cesspool of indignity. The dominos will fall.


The irony of calling anyone delusional when we have been hearing this same shite about how ‘Drumph is done, it’s over’ for literally years now. Your ability to work through your cognitive dissonance and continue in gullibility is truly exceptional.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26165 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 10:05 am to
Anyone with an ounce of sense knows why they want them, so they can leak them. They have no legitimate purpose for acquiring them.

Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85915 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 10:06 am to
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Anyone with an ounce of sense knows why they want them, so they can leak them. They have no legitimate purpose for acquiring them.
yup
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 10:06 am to
Conclusory section
quote:

Though our journey has been long, we find ourselves at the end of a familiar tale. A congressional committee, as committees have done repeatedly over the past two centuries, issued an investigative subpoena, and the target of that subpoena, questioning the committee’s legislative purpose, has asked a court to invalidate it. The fact that the subpoena in this case seeks information that concerns the President of the United States adds a twist, but not a surprising one: disputes between Congress and the President are a recurring plot in our national story. And that is precisely what the Framers intended. As Justice Brandeis wrote, “[t]he doctrine of the separation of powers was adopted . . . not to promote efficiency but to preclude the exercise of arbitrary power.” Myers v. United States, 272 U.S. 52, 293 (1926) (Brandeis, J., dissenting). “The purpose,” he explained, “was not to avoid friction, but, by means of the inevitable friction incident to the distribution of the governmental powers among three departments, to save the people from autocracy.” Id.

Having considered the weighty interests at stake in this case, we conclude that the subpoena issued by the Committee to Mazars is valid and enforceable. We affirm the district court’s judgment in favor of the Oversight Committee and against the Trump Plaintiffs.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30547 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 10:06 am to
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So OP....no cliff notes with your twist on it?


Dude, your brain simply does not work on the level of Hank's... How dare you ask him to lower himself to your level to explain something....
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74586 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 10:07 am to
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in laws requiring Presidents to publicly disclose certain financial information.


If they pass law to allow this then I would imagine the first time its applied it would go to the SCOTUS right?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85915 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 10:07 am to
Was a dissent written by the one with common sense?
Posted by PickupAutist
Member since Sep 2018
3038 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 10:08 am to
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Seriously, who cares about Trump's tax returns?


They think proving trump isn’t a billionaire but rather only worth hundreds and hundreds of millions would be a le epic own even though it’s more than they will ever have in their life. They also have a fantasy that it will finally prove he is some sort of bought Russian agent even though he is as American as apple pie.
This post was edited on 10/11/19 at 10:09 am
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