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re: David Sacks idea: auction off public licenses, potentially kicking ABC/CBS/NBC to cable

Posted on 10/29/24 at 4:57 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 4:57 pm to
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I'm not following your point here.


The DOE regs, which I do not agree with and have posted about at length, were effectively minimums. Also, you posted the standard of proof, not a due process standard.

Nothing prevented schools from offering students accused more due process (more neutral arbiters, more evidentiary disclosure, attorneys, etc.).

The Obama regs were just from a letter, not a binding federal regulatory scheme. Trump addressed it directly (for the better), but the new regs are brand new and I'm not even sure if they're in effect.

So it was the choice of the schools to attack the due process of students, not the federal government (who were not directly involved in the processes).
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21218 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 5:06 pm to
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They would be very happy about eradicating state-run media, which is what these networks have become.

Anyone who doesn’t believe you can go look at that Harvard study from Trump’s first 100 days. +90% negative from our free press NBC, ABC, etc. and Fox was 52% negative. The free press is DNC propaganda and nothing more.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22716 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 5:11 pm to
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Nothing prevented schools from offering students accused more due process (more neutral arbiters, more evidentiary disclosure, attorneys, etc.)

So you're arguing that -

- "mark the return of" really means, "marks the option for a return of"

- "also require schools to apply" really means, "schools have the option to apply"

- "must find an accused student guilty" really means, "schools have an option to"

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So it was the choice of the schools to attack the due process of students, not the federal government (who were not directly involved in the processes).

Is this one of those "Title IX is optional" arguments?
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 5:12 pm to
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So it was the choice of the schools to attack the due process of students, not the federal government (who were not directly involved in the processes).

I would argue it’s a leftist ideology that poisons and wrecks everything it touches. It’s in government and spreads throughout our society like a cancer. The schools are a reflection or symptom of what’s happening in society.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476658 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 5:15 pm to
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Is this one of those "Title IX is optional" arguments?


There were no title 9 regulations until Trump and Biden just implemented his own. They didn't go into effect until April

The vast majority were not regulations and just following a non-binding memo
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476658 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 5:16 pm to
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I would argue it’s a leftist ideology that poisons and wrecks everything it touches. It’s in government and spreads throughout our society like a cancer. The schools are a reflection or symptom of what’s happening in society.


My brother in christ, these schools are way, way ahead of the population.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22716 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 5:32 pm to
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There were no title 9 regulations until Trump and Biden just implemented his own. They didn't go into effect until April

But they were regulations/requirements?
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
7149 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 5:54 pm to
You're wrong. And the answer is that there's only one spectrum. This is prime real estate that doesn't have to be broadcasting propaganda. It can be used for all kinds of projects other than network news.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49403 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 5:57 pm to
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Yay. Screw the free press! The Founders would be happy, I’m sure.


This in no way limits the free press.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63320 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 6:08 pm to
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The negotiated contracts I’m sure have a force majeure clause.
You think frequency allocation is a simple contract? If only!

I went through the frequency allocation/construction permit process in the early 90s. Dealing with the FCC is something special.
This post was edited on 10/29/24 at 6:17 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63320 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 6:12 pm to
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I'm not giving any validity to the proposal in the OP. Don't confuse the debate over terminologies with any agreement with the idea.
Im not sure what you are posting about. There’s no disagreement over “terminologies”. A license for broadcast is a very specific thing. And it’s not something networks own. If you think Sacks meant something other than a frequency allocation license, I’d love to hear your explanation of what type think he meant or you meant.


:edit: apologies in advance if I’ve misinterpreted your position or confused you with another poster.
This post was edited on 10/29/24 at 6:18 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476658 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 6:18 pm to
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But they were regulations/requirements?


Yeah that have been in effect for 2 months this school year. I've heard of no cases yet, but I don't follow FIRE like I used to
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19454 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 6:34 pm to
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Yay. Screw the free press! The Founders would be happy, I’m sure.

They had to pay for newspaper too. You're emotional.
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
3275 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 8:11 pm to
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Something noone has said, what would prevent China from investing an obscene amount of money, like 10 billioin dollars, to buy up these frequencies? How "unbiased" will the networks be then? Or Russia via its fake capiitalist arm Gazprom Media?


Foreign ownership is prohibited. That’s why Sony couldn’t buy CBS. Rupert Murdoch had to become a US citizen to buy Fox.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22716 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 10:25 pm to
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Yeah that have been in effect for 2 months this school year. I've heard of no cases yet, but I don't follow FIRE like I used to

Then why are you arguing they're options/suggestions?

They were rolled out more than 2 years ago but have been in effect just a couple of months?
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