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re: David Sacks idea: auction off public licenses, potentially kicking ABC/CBS/NBC to cable

Posted on 10/29/24 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63030 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 12:58 pm to
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The government can't just change the game at halftime and leave them holding the bag.


Of course it can.

The negotiated contracts I’m sure have a force majeure clause.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 1:14 pm to
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This would require epic due process due to the property rights concerned.

Dude, it's 2024. Why are you going on about due process and laws. You must be a boomer.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 1:15 pm to
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Why are you going on about due process and laws.


I never took you for a BLM type.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 1:21 pm to
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I never took you for a BLM type.

Well, that's one thing you've been right about.

There's a difference between recognizing the recent (relative) lawlessness of fedgov and advocating for it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 1:23 pm to
Who was denied due process?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76462 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 1:25 pm to
Would be awesome. And the reaction by the House and Senate?
Immediate Impeachment!
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 1:31 pm to
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Who was denied due process?

At the top of the list are college students accused of sexual assault/harassment. Somewhere on the list are some J6'ers.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 1:33 pm to
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At the top of the list are college students accused of sexual assault/harassment

I agree, but in the past. That's largely been solved.

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Somewhere on the list are some J6'ers.

I don't know of any who were denied due process.

Now some did fall on the wrong side of the bail policies their fans prefer, which is a conundrum for internal consistency, but not for due process.
This post was edited on 10/29/24 at 1:34 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 1:42 pm to
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I agree, but in the past

What are the odds that a fedgov willing to perpetrate something so egregious as what was done on campuses is unwilling to do it elsewhere? Do you believe it was just some crazy outlier/blip?

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Now some did fall on the wrong side of the bail policies their fans prefer, which is a conundrum for internal consistency, but not for due process.

Are you telling me it's consistent with due process to be holed up for a year without being charged or a trial in sight? Regardless of what the law allows, IMO that's inconsistent with the principle of due process.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 1:46 pm to
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a fedgov willing to perpetrate something so egregious as what was done on campuses i

Fedgov didn't do shite in those examples. The individual schools did.

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Do you believe it was just some crazy outlier/blip?

I think the schools took the guidance they were given and the societal culture of the time regarding sexual assault and created a moral panic.

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Are you telling me it's consistent with due process to be holed up for a year without being charged or a trial in sight?

The very reason those trials were delayed was due process. Find me some example of someone who've been sitting over a year where the delay was not caused by motion practice, appeals, and continuances (aka, due process) of the Defendant.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35494 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 1:55 pm to
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If you want the government to censure content--then just say so. I'm not a proponent, even if I don't like or agree with the content.


I'm not giving any validity to the proposal in the OP. Don't confuse the debate over terminologies with any agreement with the idea.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
57971 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 1:58 pm to
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Love Sacks


Same. Also is there more TDS ridden cuck than j-cal.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51862 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 2:10 pm to
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The future is probably wireless streaming over private cellular networks.
The future is with the new, upcoming Over-The-Air broadcast standard, ATSC 3.0, which will be more powerful, and with better modulation, allowing broadcasters to make available not only their own channel in 4k UHD in HDR and Dolby Vision, but also with premium Atmos sound, and multiplexing to deliver lots of streaming channels AND high bandwidth Internet services.

ATSC 3.0

The FCC has to approve it, set the timeline and auction off the airspace, then manufacturers will need to add the reception devices and antenna into their products

As I mentioned above, it will be robust, and rooftop or other antennas should not be necessary.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72127 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 2:12 pm to
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Very few people still use antennas and even allowing for that there is plenty of space for over the air crap


Everyone I know that primarily streams has a hd antenna myself included. You can get fantastic often superior picture.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51862 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 2:42 pm to
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Everyone I know that primarily streams has a hd antenna myself included. You can get fantastic often superior picture.
This is true

What isn't true is that many people don't realize that in an HOA community that a TV antenna can be installed outside on the roof, not inside the attic, in spite of any HOA rules that prohibit it or try to restrict placement. FCC regulations allow you to go up to 12' above the top of the peak roofline without having to get a permit from local governing entities, but higher is allowed if local governments allow it, whether they require a permit or not.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 3:55 pm to
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Fedgov didn't do shite in those examples. The individual schools did.


October 2022

College students investigated for sexual harassment or assault will once again be stripped of due process, thanks to new regulations released by the U.S. Department of Education in June.

The new rules, which apply to investigations under Title IX, part of a federal law that prohibits sex discrimination in education, rescind rules crafted and implemented by former Education Secretary Betsy DeVos during the Trump administration. They mark the return of the "single investigator model," which empowers a single college administrator to investigate, judge, and sanction alleged misconduct.

The Biden administration regulations also require schools to apply a "preponderance of the evidence" standard when investigating complaints if they do not use a clear-and-convincing or higher standard of evidence in all other comparable hearings*. Under that standard, investigators must find an accused student guilty if they conclude it is more than 50 percent likely that the allegations are true. Under the DeVos regulations, by contrast, universities needed "clear and convincing evidence" to punish an accused student.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 3:59 pm to
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The individual schools did.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 4:49 pm to
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The individual schools did.

I'm not following your point here.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21205 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 4:53 pm to
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Yay. Screw the free press! The Founders would be happy, I’m sure.

You can produce whatever media you want to now. Why do I as a taxpayer have to subsidize NPR who hates my guts?
Posted by Harry Wong
Member Since Feb 2019
Member since Oct 2024
366 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 4:57 pm to
LOVE this... Frick em all.

Next do NGO's and Tax exempt companies
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