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re: DAs refusing to prosecute abortion crimes

Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:11 pm to
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23119 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:11 pm to
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Wrong. The Attorney General can step in when the DA gets out of hand.


End of the article:
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Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry, who is staunchly anti-abortion, applauded Friday’s Supreme Court ruling, but Ciolino said state law strictly limits the influence that the AG’s office has over local prosecutorial decisions.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22980 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:14 pm to
You don't see this as a problem? You don't see a problem with DAs only prosecuting cases they want?

And he's wrint. DAs are supposed to prosecute cases they think they can win. Big difference
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23119 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:22 pm to
I 100% think it’s a problem for DAs to issue blanket statements refusing to prosecute rather than on a case by case basis. Never said otherwise.
Posted by NBR_Exile
Houston via Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
995 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:29 pm to
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Need the AG to intervene for authority over all abortion prosecutions, File complaint against the DA with the State Bar disciplinary committee, and lastly find out who the MD is and file complaints with the Louisiana state board of Medical Examiners about him breaking the law. go after the Doctors license.


This. It will be up to the state AG to ensure the law is being followed. If that fails, our votes should make the choice.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 8:30 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49859 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:32 pm to
I find it hard to believe that any doctor, let alone Planned Parenthood, is going to run a clinic in a city/county where the DA is ignoring state law in allowing them to operate.

That's like continually walking under a suspended piano.

You will likely be ok for a while, but one day....

I mean who wants this hanging over their head?
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The 173-year-old law makes providing an abortion a felony, making no exceptions for cases of rape or incest. The penalty for performing abortions outlined in the law is up to six years in prison and a $10,000 fine, but increases to 15 years in prison and a $50,000 fine if the fetus is past sixteen weeks of development.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 8:33 pm
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:32 pm to
DAs have prosecutorial discretion but it seems like the State could go after medical practitioners (murderers) administratively and make their lives hell; that’s assuming the State has the gumption to release the hounds.
Posted by rb
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5633 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:36 pm to
Yep…They’ve got to have a professional license to open the doors. If they preform an illegal procedure they lose their ability to practice and can be prosecuted by AGs office.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15466 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:40 pm to
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Dane Ciolino


Professor of ethics instructing District Attorneys, who are the ultimate officers of the court, that it’s ok to violate their oath of elected office.

Nothing screams more “I’m an academic” so I don’t have to live by the same rules as everyone else more than that.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57354 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:42 pm to
Then they should be forcibly removed from office. Remember the Kentucky clerk of court who was removed because she wouldn't issue marriage licenses to gays? Same thing here.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15466 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:43 pm to
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I 100% think it’s a problem for DAs to issue blanket statements refusing to prosecute rather than on a case by case basis. Never said otherwise.


Shout it from the mountaintops Mickey
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16326 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:43 pm to
The DA is like a private company.

He can do whatever he wants.

Am I doing this right?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23119 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:44 pm to
I don’t take it as instructing anyone. He’s simply laying out the reality of the situation that they can ignore it and nothing can really change that outside of voting them out.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24285 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:44 pm to
They haven't been prosecuting murders of any kind, so abortion would be no different for them.
Posted by Johnpettigrew
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2017
1633 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:45 pm to
The actual clinics are under LA Department of Health. They have the authority to shut any clinic down and will not issue any permits for these clinics. Maybe they don’t get prosecuted but they also will not be open
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21915 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:45 pm to
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Planned Parenthood of Wisconsin stopped providing abortions as soon as the ruling came down Friday, saying they had to tell people in the waiting room they could no longer help them.


That’s weird. They provide such a vast, wide range of services you’d think they could help them in a multitude of ways.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23119 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:49 pm to
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Then they should be forcibly removed from office. Remember the Kentucky clerk of court who was removed because she wouldn't issue marriage licenses to gays? Same thing here.


She wasn’t removed from office.
Posted by NBR_Exile
Houston via Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
995 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:51 pm to
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I don’t take it as instructing anyone. He’s simply laying out the reality of the situation that they can ignore it and nothing can really change that outside of voting them out.


I’m not sure that is true. There is an Ethics Board and a State AG that might have some oversight. I’m no lawyer. I only slept with her for twenty plus years.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57354 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:03 pm to
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She wasn’t removed from office.


She was sent to jail for contempt of court and later defeated in a election. I don't see the former happening to any DA's defy the court's decision as some have said they would.
Posted by perch
Member since Jul 2013
201 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:08 pm to
Half/half DA in Dallas said no to prosecuting.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23119 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:15 pm to
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She was sent to jail for contempt of court and later defeated in a election. I don't see the former happening to any DA's defy the court's decision as some have said they would.


She was sued in federal court in Kentucky and the judge ordered her to issue the licenses and she still refused so she was jailed for a week for contempt of court. She then returned to her job for the remainder of her term until she lost her re-election bid.

So if someone can come up with standing and a legal basis to sue the DA to order them to prosecute someone, maybe he will be jailed as well. Good luck with that argument though.
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