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Dangerous times-if we let the government run rough shod over this virus what will be next
Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:21 pm
In the future will a President facing political pressure over a flu outbreak or something like that feel obligated to do all these subsidies and travel restrictions and such?
Do we really want that?
Do we really want that?
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:22 pm to I B Freeman
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Do we really want that?
Nor did we want the impeachment bullshite
Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:23 pm to I B Freeman
Well if your fricking Chinese overlords had done their fricking job we wouldn't be in this position now would we?
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:23 pm to I B Freeman
Your Chinese Flu will pass.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:24 pm to I B Freeman
The overreaction is already more impactful than the unfortunate illness and death will be.
Modern Americans panic so easily as to be startling. Certainly we do not descend from panicky, pearl-clutching fraidy cats. That we demonstrate such behaviors so consistently, so reliably is discouraging to say the least.
Modern Americans panic so easily as to be startling. Certainly we do not descend from panicky, pearl-clutching fraidy cats. That we demonstrate such behaviors so consistently, so reliably is discouraging to say the least.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:24 pm to I B Freeman
This IS NOT THE GOVERNMENT RUNNING OVER US.
IT IS THE MEDIA RUNNING OVER US! THEY ARE SETTING THE TONE AND WAGGING THE DOG (govt response).
IT IS THE MEDIA RUNNING OVER US! THEY ARE SETTING THE TONE AND WAGGING THE DOG (govt response).
Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:24 pm to I B Freeman
It isn't just about government power. Cultural institutions are reacting to the panic and cancelling nationwide events loved by millions. Nothing now stops the media from tanking the economy by stoking a widespread panic for a relatively minor threat. That's of course if a Republican is in office.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:27 pm to SCLibertarian
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It isn't just about government power. Cultural institutions are reacting to the panic and cancelling nationwide events loved by millions. Nothing now stops the media from tanking the economy by stoking a widespread panic for a relatively minor threat. That's of course if a Republican is in office.
MSM is the enemy of America.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:28 pm to I B Freeman
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I B Freeman
Do you realize that the dog eating country you are so fond of is the cause of this ?
I was right about globalism , it sucks.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:29 pm to I B Freeman
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Do we really want that?
Yes, we want out of China by any means necessary
Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:29 pm to SCLibertarian
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Nothing now stops the media from tanking the economy by stoking a widespread panic for a relatively minor threat.
Member how they carefully de-escalated fears over HIV (a primarily blood and fluid borne disease) and it became a virtue signal flag for both progressivism, generally, and pro-homosexual rights, specifically (by proxy, although they simultaneously fought the label as a homosexual disease), even though for decades, HIV was a near death sentence?
Yes, the non-promiscuous individuals without an IV drug problem who did not require a blood transfusion during the period prior to screening was at very low risk, but I just remember the years of impressive, elite yoga stretches to make concerns about the disease seem bigoted in some way.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:31 pm to Ace Midnight
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The overreaction is already more impactful than the unfortunate illness and death will be.
Many US citizens may be overreacting. But at the same time, we still aren't testing people at S. Korea levels. This is the definition of an underreaction. It is also what is driving so much uncertainty. Everyone is canceling everything because we just don't know how big this thing is at the moment and no one wants to be Lombardy
Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:34 pm to longwayfromLA
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we just don't know how big this thing is
Its because mildly sick people aren't being tested. And they don't care that they aren't being tested
Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:36 pm to I B Freeman
This entire series of liberal events of mass frickery have set a very, very dangerous precedent for the future.
These frickheads will weaponize literally anything and everything they can imagine or make up against their opposition.
My hope for our future as a republic is fading fast. If we don't have an amicable separation in the near future, we are done.
These frickheads will weaponize literally anything and everything they can imagine or make up against their opposition.
My hope for our future as a republic is fading fast. If we don't have an amicable separation in the near future, we are done.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:36 pm to longwayfromLA
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But at the same time, we still aren't testing people at S. Korea levels.
We are absolutely getting there. Millions of test kits have been shipped.
There is now some concern over the chemicals, but that's primarily on China - it wouldn't have mattered if we started off better in February if China (and India) are going to hoard needed materials.
Hopefully this ends our dependence on China and India for critical medical supplies and pharmaceutical drugs.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:41 pm to RobbBobb
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Its because mildly sick people aren't being tested. And they don't care that they aren't being tested
That's only part of the story. Many more people whose physicians' want to get them tested still can't. In both cases, the people who want to and the mildly sick, we would all be better off if there was easy available access to testing that stood away from the rest of the healthcare delivery system. We are on our way there, but we are not there now. That's uncertainty is part of the reason people are concerned.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:43 pm to bamarep
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Well if your fricking Chinese overlords had done their fricking job we wouldn't be in this position now would we?
IB probably brought the Wuhan Flu to America.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:45 pm to Ace Midnight
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We are absolutely getting there. Millions of test kits have been shipped.
There is now some concern over the chemicals, but that's primarily on China - it wouldn't have mattered if we started off better in February if China (and India) are going to hoard needed materials.
We did more testing yesterday than all the other days combined, but we're still a fraction of where we need to be. We are getting there, but from what I've most recently read we're two weeks away.
Materials sourcing is a logistical problem and given the size and might of the US government, a solveable one. If Korea could figure it out, we could have too if we started early enough and gave the appropriate level of attention. We are still behind every major country in testing per capita. No excuse for that at all.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:46 pm to longwayfromLA
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Many more people whose physicians' want to get them tested still can't.
Proof of this or I am calling bullshite...
Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:53 pm to longwayfromLA
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We are still behind every major country in testing per capita.
That's going to remain true for a little while longer.
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No excuse for that at all.
Well, there is. We chose to come up with our own test instead of using the Chinese or Korean tests (there are arguments for and against both approaches). After all, we did that for Zika and (I believe) H1N1. Then we had a glitch with the first batch of tests.
The revolutionary idea of privatizing and decentralizing the tests will pay dividends for future outbreaks (assuming the collectivists don't take back over and reverse all this), but this has come at a cost of delayed (broader) testing for this particular novel virus expression.
And, the more testing, we will discover a lot more spread than previously thought, a significantly lower CFR than we have already and folks should begin to calm down.
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