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Posted on 7/28/20 at 2:41 pm to
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
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Posted on 7/28/20 at 2:41 pm to
Sure they can. The realpolitik of this is that regimes manage this effectively by competently handling the medical and economic consequences of the pandemic and/or by effective propaganda selling their response as effective to their populations. We don't really have either of those.

As far as subtracting out China and India, the US is 330M of the 5B non-Indian, non-Chinese people on planet earth. That comes out to about 6.6%, and again we're more than doubling that with regard to deaths, largely due to our poor leadership and infosphere.
This post was edited on 7/28/20 at 2:44 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/28/20 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

largely due to our poor leadership and infosphere.


Lol. Your idiotic responses are part of the reason for the discord.

The epidemiologists say that zero distancing would result in roughly double the number of fatalities that complete suppression would. So what’s the rest of the difference?
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9902 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 3:18 pm to


I'd take credit, but you've told me no one listens to me (except you of course, as you can't quit me).

I dunno. What do you think it is?
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1584 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 3:23 pm to
Absolutely poor leadership. NY, NJ, Pennsylvania, and other Democrat states. You know, where the majority of the deaths come from.

They are also responsible for most of the economy.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69264 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 3:23 pm to
Doc, the news out of the sunbelt and western hotspot states are getting better and better. Hospitalizations falling fast in AZ. Texas on the decline as well.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9902 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 3:26 pm to
You might want to take a look at the relative approval numbers for those governors vs. that of the president.

quote:

Doc, the news out of the sunbelt and western hotspot states are getting better and better. Hospitalizations falling fast in AZ. Texas on the decline as well.


This is good. Bass likes to poop on the idea of a unified message from both parties instead of resorting to medical populism, but it will be essential to keep everybody doing what they need to do to suppress this.
This post was edited on 7/28/20 at 3:29 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69264 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

You might want to take a look at the relative approval numbers for those governors vs. that of the president.
That's not objective evidence though.

there is absolutely zero reason cuomo should have as high the numbers he currently has. The data speaks for itself.

And florida/arizona still have a tiny fraction of the deaths that NY has, yet governors in those states have seen their ratings tumble.

Just doensn't make sense.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9902 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 3:29 pm to
Go look at the polling on what the public wants the governors to do.
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1584 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 3:36 pm to
You mean Democrats want their politicians to want fear? Shocked I tell you. I'm in Florida. I want no masks and open. Thankfully have DeSantis over that idiot Cuomo.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9902 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 3:40 pm to
They want their politicians to drive the prevalence down. This is the case in Europe too. Heads of state and in-parties are polling well in spite of bad economies.

But not here at the national level.
This post was edited on 7/28/20 at 3:42 pm
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1584 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 4:01 pm to
Last I checked, polling just fine. Better than Obama was.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9902 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 4:08 pm to
He's campaigning like he thinks he losing (defending red states, etc.), though.

I don't think he'll tack to try to control the illness either because that would mean acknowledging that he'd made mistakes and you baws might not like that he's bending the knee to the MSM narrative. He's trying strategy number 2 (message control) to attack the medical establishment for being the meanies that won't give you your HCQ and want to keep everything shut down and praying that numbers come down in the meantime.
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1584 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 4:15 pm to
You are one clueless sheep. I'm sure you believe in Crimate Clisis too.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9902 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 4:36 pm to
I don't think it'll be long before we see anti-system climate politics too, but let's leave that out of Chrom's thread.

To get back to Ace's point about testing, another way to get a sense of where we are is to look at our positive rates in the context of our cases. We're doing better than some of the worst-off countries, but definitely not good. This is also log scale, so it visually minimizes large differences.

This post was edited on 7/28/20 at 5:00 pm
Posted by AUMIS01
Atlanta
Member since May 2020
1206 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 4:40 pm to
Looking like Data Dump Tuesday is going to at worst be flat vs. last Tuesday, possibly even a little bit of improvement. Going to be close, I'll be curious to see what the positivity rate is and where the final numbers land.

Haven't seen a ton of talk about Georgia, but we definitely peaked here 2-3 weeks ago. Other than Fulton, the metro Atlanta counties are showing steep drops now outside of the 14 day window. Good news.
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1584 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 4:58 pm to
You may have underestimated how many come in late.
Posted by AUMIS01
Atlanta
Member since May 2020
1206 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 5:16 pm to
I was afraid that might be the case when I typed that. Guess we'll find out in a bit.

Edit: Some if it is all the disparate data sources out there. For instance, NCOV2019.live has a much higher case and death count than Chrome's source, and is showing decent numbers today. Covid tracking project is showing flat. Who knows what the real truth is?
This post was edited on 7/28/20 at 5:21 pm
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1584 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 5:23 pm to
All going to depend on how much Texas dumps in there. Likely going to be a lot.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6830 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 5:31 pm to
This is the link to the COVID-19 tracker that I have created and shared on Google Drive.
If you want to view the shared sheet, follow this link COVID-19 Tracker
If you want to download a copy of this sheet and manipulate it follow this link Downloadable COVID-19 Tracker
The source for the data is from https://covidtracking.com/data/















New Cases by State


New Deaths by State


7-day average growth rate of new cases
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1584 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 5:38 pm to
It's starting to look better.
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