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re: Current 2024 Trump v. Biden polling trends with battleground states and 2020 comparisons.

Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:36 am to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118689 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:36 am to
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Yet yall are angry at Mike, and excuse Trump.


Sometimes I believe y’all Trump critics are conveniently ignorant of the role of each branch of government.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259992 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:37 am to
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Let me refer you the Federal Reserve balance sheet. Notice prior to COVID the balance sheet was winding down. There is only one way that can happen, sound fiscal policy coming from the executive and legislative branches of the federal government.


Nah.

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Trump calls for subzero interest rates. That could backfire

Published 1:02 PM EDT, Wed September 11, 2019


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The Latest: Trump wants Fed rate cut, quantitative easing

Published 7:03 AM AKDT, April 5, 2019

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Trump proposes record spending, trillion-dollar deficit

Published 2:35 PM AKDT, March 11, 2019


trump was still pushing spending we didnt have to boost his election in 2020.

And still failed. Trump tried to manipulate the data to improve his re-electin chances. His economy was no different than obamas.

This post was edited on 3/28/24 at 11:39 am
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6366 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:47 am to
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No.


When it comes to out of control spending there is very little to no difference between Obama-Trump-Biden. Very little to none. They all loved Socialistic 'Stimulus' spending.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259992 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:53 am to
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When it comes to out of control spending there is very little to no difference between Obama-Trump-Biden. Very little to none. They all loved Socialistic 'Stimulus' spending.


Same macro economics.

Trump had to pump the economy before 2020, the major growth was in government, mainly from his spending

LINK

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In 2019, employment growth accelerated in private education and health services and leisure and hospitality. (See figure 2.) Government and other services also experienced improved job gains. In contrast, employment gains were markedly weaker in transportation and warehousing and in goods-producing industries. Both construction and manufacturing showed decelerations in job growth, and employment in mining and logging transitioned from a gain in 2018 to a loss in 2019. In September 2019, local government employment surpassed its prior all-time high in July 2008. (See figure 8.) The industry led job growth in government, adding 135,000 jobs over the year




Looks to me Donny's economy hurt the working man, and helped the bureaucrat.

The man sent to bring back manufacturing actually grew government, and decreased working class job growth..

Brilliant.

This post was edited on 3/28/24 at 11:55 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35922 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:59 am to
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How much worse?


10Xs
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52765 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:01 pm to
It would be more comparable if the polling from 2020 was from March of 2020 and not the week before the elections. As i recall, Trump was way ahead until about a month prior to the election. When the polls started going the other way, i knew something was off.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259992 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:03 pm to
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Sometimes I believe y’all Trump critics are conveniently ignorant of the role of each branch of government.


The way I see it, you folks dont understand the role of leader of the Republican party.

Because there is no leader which means someone isnt doing their job and has no accountability.
Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
1411 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:05 pm to
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It would be more comparable if the polling from 2020 was from March of 2020 and not the week before the elections. As i recall, Trump was way ahead until about a month prior to the election. When the polls started going the other way, i knew something was off.


Your recollection isn't correct. You can go back and look at the polling history for that time frame. Biden was ahead almost the entire way, although my side would cherry pick certain polls to say Trump wasn't down.

The polls this time see to be the mirror opposite of what they were in 2020.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118689 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:12 pm to
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It would be more comparable if the polling from 2020 was from March of 2020 and not the week before the elections. As i recall, Trump was way ahead until about a month prior to the election. When the polls started going the other way, i knew something was off.




I updated the 2020 general election screenshot. The original had the timeline cut off. I had to reduce my zoom level below 100% to get it all in one screenshot. Now you can see March 2020 general election polling trend timeline. In March of 2020 Biden was up about 5%. Now in March of 2024 Trump is up 1.4%. That's a 6%+ swing in Trump's direction. Not insignificant.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118689 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:13 pm to
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Because there is no leader which means someone isnt doing their job and has no accountability.



Is Trump accountable for congress passing Nancey's budget a few days ago?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71170 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 12:14 pm to
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Sometimes I believe y’all Trump critics are conveniently ignorant of the role of each branch of government.


Kind of like you were ignorant of the data you posted earlier?
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