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re: Current 2024 Trump v. Biden polling trends with battleground states and 2020 comparisons.

Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:38 am to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71908 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:38 am to
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You would not be happy with the poll results on whether you are taken seriously or not.


I can promise you that I wouldn't give a frick about being "taken seriously" by people like you.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:49 am to
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Trump will not be getting prices down.


Never made that claim.

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What we have now is the new normal. It's not magically going to return to 2019 just because Trump is on office.


The inflation that came from Trump was due to COVID spending in 2020 where congress passed appropriations to pay people to stay home. Before that, fiscal policy was such that the Federal Reserve was actually winding down assets hey accumulated though QE. COVID screwed up that fiscal responsible trajectory. That was the big picture prior to COVID. I do not expect Trump to return to 2019 prices but I do expect his fiscal policies to raise wages such that relatively the current prices are not as detrimental. Big multinationals, Larry Fink, Vanguard, State Street, etc. hate this. When the incremental between prices and wages are high they make bank and vice versa.

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Trump will also spend at a rate on par or exceeding Biden.



Depends on who controls congress.

Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
4392 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:52 am to
If Trump is only polling 1-2 percentage points ahead of Biden, then there is no way he wins those states. He will need to be up and have a turn out that has him 5 or more points ahead of Biden or we will just see a re-peat of 2020.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36054 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:56 am to
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Worse than you ronbot sore losers?


Much worse
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2298 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:57 am to
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OK, so you're cool with having your vote disenfranchised, as long as you don't know about it.

That's weird, but you do you.




Where in the frick did you come up with that take? Where did I say I am cool with having my vote disenfranchised? Are you on crack? Posts like that is why you are not taken seriously and for good reason.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71908 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:59 am to
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Where in the frick did you come up with that take?


The volume of retards here is astounding...

Here, retard...

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OK, but why did you only start caring about that in 2020?

Because it was so obvious.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73827 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:02 am to
How much worse?
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6842 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:03 am to
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The inflation that came from Trump was due to COVID spending in 2020 where congress passed appropriations to pay people to stay home.


And you realize that Trump wanted to spend even more in stimulus money but was blocked by congress. Right? Trump is not and will never be a fiscal conservative. He is about spending then worrying about it later and using tools available like bankruptcy etc. to wipe the debt.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73827 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:06 am to
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Trump is not and will never be a fiscal conservative


No one is you clown

Stop crying all day long. You idiots are unreal
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
19664 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:07 am to
Yeah, Nancy woke up that week and decided to be a conservative and save the country from Trump’s spending
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6842 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:08 am to
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Yeah, Nancy woke up that week and decided to be a conservative and save the country from Trump’s spending


Its a fact.
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
19664 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:09 am to
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6842 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:11 am to
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) -President Donald Trump threatened on Tuesday to not sign an $892 billion coronavirus relief bill that includes desperately needed money for individual Americans, saying it should be amended to increase the amount in the stimulus checks.
U.S. government operations are being funded on a temporary basis through Dec. 28, waiting for the $1.4 trillion in federal spending for fiscal 2021 that is also part of the bill.





LINK
This post was edited on 3/28/24 at 11:12 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:11 am to
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Trump is not and will never be a fiscal conservative.


Depends. For his first three years in his first term he governed like a fiscal conservative then in his last year due to COVID he governed like a fiscal liberal. Trump is all about making a good deal. If the deal requires big spending up front he will do it but the deal has to be good.

I mean, at least there a better than reasonable shot that Trump will implement fiscal conservative policies especially if he has a congress that forces his hand than there would be if Biden gets another 4 years. We know Biden wants much bigger spending and taxation than Trump.

But if you still want to vote for Biden because Trump might spend more than you like there's really nothing I can do or say.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6842 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:11 am to
He was spending before Covid was even a thing.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:19 am to
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He was spending before Covid was even a thing.



Let me refer you the Federal Reserve balance sheet. Notice prior to COVID the balance sheet was winding down. There is only one way that can happen, sound fiscal policy coming from the executive and legislative branches of the federal government. Then COVID happened, congress appropriated more money, the FR had to print by buying treasuries, its balance sheet grew, Biden was elected and spending and printing was put on steroids.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71908 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:23 am to
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Notice prior to COVID the balance sheet was winding down. There is only one way that can happen, sound fiscal policy coming from the executive and legislative branches of the federal government.


So Biden is a fiscal conservative?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260788 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:33 am to
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Kind of like Mike Johnson passing Nancey Pelosi's budget right now?


Pretty much.

Yet yall are angry at Mike, and excuse Trump.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:35 am to
No.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71908 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 11:35 am to
Indeed. Thanks for owning your error.
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