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Cuba's new Constitution recognizes private property, free markets

Posted on 7/15/18 at 11:43 am
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/15/18 at 11:43 am
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HAVANA (Reuters) - Communist-run Cuba will officially recognize private property, something it has long rejected as a vestige of capitalism, under a new constitution that also creates the position of prime minister alongside the president, state media reported on Saturday.


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Granma said it enshrined recognition of both the free market and private property in Cuba’s new Magna Carta.


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Apart from introducing the position of prime minister, dividing the roles of head of state and head of government, the new constitution makes the president head of the assembly and imposes a term limit on the presidency of two consecutive five-year periods.

Castro, who together with his older, late brother Fidel Castro ruled the country for nearly 60 years, had proposed the limit in 2011, as part of a bid to modernize the political system.
Posted by foj1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
3747 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 11:44 am to
MCGA
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37831 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 11:46 am to
But why would they abandon a key socialist principle? They have the opportunity to get it right this time.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 11:48 am to
Michael Moore is gonna be pissed

I guess we need a new place to try REAL socialism
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51807 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 11:49 am to
So ANOTHER failed utopia falls victim to the evils of capitalistic opportunity.


Imagine that.


And just for an added bonus because he is such a flaming insufferable pussy:

Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69313 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 11:49 am to
A non negligible amount of liberals truly thought/think Cuba healthcare is better than in America
Posted by Volatile
Tennessee
Member since Apr 2014
5472 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 11:52 am to
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But why would they abandon a key socialist principle? They have the opportunity to get it right this time.


It’s almost as if socialism and capitalism isn’t a binary yes or no thing, and that the economies of different governments are a sliding scale between the two. Not a single country on earth is purely socialist in practice. Not a single country on earth is purely capitalist.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 11:54 am to
I doubt they give back the property they stole.

Why would any western country invest to develop property there? Same for Venezuela. Unfortunately Venezuela once had a chance then came Chavez and Maduro.

If tomorrow either country made private property protection a priority it would take 50 years before any investor felt confident to invest at the true value of property there. Oh there will development but not at the value the same development would be worth in a proven private property country.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23735 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 11:55 am to
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A non negligible amount of liberals truly thought/think Cuba healthcare is better than in America


In Latin America, Cuba’s health care system is very well respected. I don’t really see the point here. Depending on where you fall on the economic spectrum, healthcare here can be pretty spotty.
This post was edited on 7/15/18 at 11:57 am
Posted by habanos
Alabama
Member since Feb 2014
1937 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 11:56 am to
So the Bacardi family will get their rum factory back?

How is this going to work for all the family's that left in 1960? They want their property back.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
30333 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 11:57 am to
You’re a dumb arse
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 11:57 am to
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It’s almost as if socialism and capitalism isn’t a binary yes or no thing, and that the economies of different governments are a sliding scale between the two. Not a single country on earth is purely socialist in practice. Not a single country on earth is purely capitalist.


The argument will always be what is the correct thermostat setting.
Posted by habanos
Alabama
Member since Feb 2014
1937 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 11:58 am to
Who is to say they wont steal it all back as they see fit.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69313 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 11:58 am to
Where are you getting your data? The honest, reliable Cuban government?
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37831 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 11:59 am to
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In Latin America, Cuba’s health care system is very well respected. I don’t really see the point here. Depending on where you fall on the economic spectrum, healthcare here can be pretty spotty.




And there it is
Posted by habanos
Alabama
Member since Feb 2014
1937 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 12:01 pm to
This is a thread about private property in Cuba. Not healthcare
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112511 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 12:07 pm to
It's a good start. When discussing libertarian philosophy IRL some people get stuck on my 'private property = liberty' synonym. There is no such thing as a free society that doesn't respect private property rights. And it starts with self ownership.
Posted by Paradiddler
in a groove
Member since Jul 2016
1316 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 12:30 pm to
Well, it'll be interesting to see how exactly this will be instituted. Seems like a drive for foreign investors and a perk for the governmental elite, at least at the start.
Maybe the "free market" will allow for "private property" for the regular folk, but I have doubts - a lot of barriers of entry to overcome.
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