re: Crusades are coming back to the west

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Did you atone for it, or do you worship the death of another to do it for you?

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His death does not save me from the sins I commit

Answer the question. What are my religious/spiritual leanings? You have stated that you know multiple times in this thread even going so far as to say that I tell you what they are every day. Don't beat around the bush. Say it plainly.

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Answer the question. What are my religious/spiritual leanings? You have stated that you know multiple times in this thread even going so far as to say that I tell you what they are every day. Don't beat around the bush. Say it plainly.

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You are a follower of Paul, an anti-Christ/satanic religion.

I do not dine with Paul.

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And that you understand you must walk the path?

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The only must mortals can attain is the must try.

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Have you considered that maybe it's done on purpose in both cases to produce those responses to begin with

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Yes

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Not a single state forced a religion on anyone.

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It depends what you mean by "force". If I said we ought to go to having a singular state religion--say, protestant Christianity--would you say I'm trying to force my religion on others? From your outbursts here, I would assume so, but that's what the colony charters were saying.

Even so, I was merely demonstrating that your view of the 1st amendment was not what the pilgrims and puritans in the American colonies were thinking of before 1776.

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You're talking about existing laws that had tax dollars that would support churches of said religion.

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It went well beyond taxes.

Catholics were explicitly or effectively excluded from protection/toleration in Massachusetts, New York, Georgia, and (informally) Virginia and the Carolinas. Non-Trinitarians were excluded in otherwise-tolerant Maryland and Rhode Island. Jews and other non-Christians were excluded from officeholding in Pennsylvania and Delaware. Non-Congregationalists/non-Anglicans were excluded from certain offices in Massachusetts, Connecticut, and the Carolinas. Rhode Island was the only colony that had no charter-based religious exclusion of any kind.

They weren't all the same, but if you were a Catholic or an atheist in the 1600's and 1700's, good luck trying to get into office in most of those colonies without lying about your beliefs.

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The states that had it did so before joining the union. Some didn't have it at all. Others dropped it upon joining the union, while others phased it out within a few years.

Also in order to get "Most" you are using 1776 as a date, rather than 1788 when the constitution was ratified. By 1787 only 6 of the 13 had the tax support. Many others within a year to 2 after.

By the time the 1st amendment was ratified, only 2 states were left.

But by all means, please continue to argue how Christians want to force their religion on people and why they need to be kept in check as a result.

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The Constitution and BoR originally only affected the way federal government was structured. The states were absolutely free to go about working however they wanted, including their religious tests for state/local office, and many did, with New Hampshire being the last one to remove all religious tests in 1877, almost 100 years after the ratification of the Constitution. It took decades for most of the states to remove their religious tests.

So your claim that the country was founded on getting away from that mindset was absolutely false. The founders just didn't want that to determine federal rights or political expression.

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Way to ignore the topic.

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Not ignoring anything.

It's the same fruits because Christians do not follow Jesus. I'm supposed to give you a free pass because you give lip service to the truth, way and light that is supposed to show it to you even though you freely admit it's not followed?

I can't do that.

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It’s right under your nose.

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The Christian religion is NOT about following Jesus.

It's about believing "Jesus is Lord" and that you are saved by him dying on the cross and your sins are washed away by his blood.

It's downright disgusting what Christians do with Jesus and in his name and it is not at all what he would do or support.