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re: Critical Race Theory in Louisiana Public Schools
Posted on 4/30/21 at 12:55 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Posted on 4/30/21 at 12:55 pm to GeauxTigerTM
quote:do you need sources to tell you the sky is blue?
they seem to have failed to list their sources for this claim.
I will say this. It’s one thing to require a concept to be taught.
It’s another entirely to require that a concept NOT be taught...
Doris Voitier is on BESE, appointed by Gov. Edwards, and she is the superintendent of St Bernard Parish Public Schools and a lot of Garofalo’s constituents.
Garofalo graduated from Holy Cross and had a son that went to Jesuit
This post was edited on 4/30/21 at 1:14 pm
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Posted on 4/30/21 at 12:59 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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This is why we can't have nice things...
That phrase, as well all know, simply means "all of something." Pretending he is literally suggesting there are good parts of slavery is simply political opportunism. I get it and it's useful, but could you do us all a favor and skip the part of pretending to be outraged?
I mean... what’s the aspect of slavery he feels we aren’t teaching?
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:03 pm to Boogalie
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OK, what have YOU done in any way to help in this 'planning and thought", just curious.
Bitched about it on a message board just like everyone else here...duh.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:07 pm to Boogalie
Shouldn’t Louisiana be more worried about teaching kids in public school how to read on more then an 8th grade level.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:07 pm to Cosmo
I could not disagree more. Please edify me where I can inform myself of its' existence. I am however aware of the myriad of Constitutional Amendments, social programs, legislation by various states, actions my Universities as it relates to admission quotas...et.al. that certainly point to a different point of view in my mind.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:09 pm to SammyTiger
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what’s the aspect of slavery he feels we aren’t teaching?
The part where African tribes, you know...in Africa, were complicit in the slave trade. It would not surprise me to learn that a bunch of liberals are teaching that white guys chased down blacks, captured them, then sold them into slavery.
In short, it is a way of making the cast of bad guys a “white male” issue.
Kind of like Critical Race Theory, the 1619 project, the attacks on Gandhi’s reputation, the “whitewashing of MLK’s views on homosexuality etc. Basically it’s all bullshite.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:09 pm to Boogalie
Episcopal High School wrecks their students with white self-hatred bullshite. It is not just public school. I wish I had known how bad it was when my kids were there because I would have pulled them out in a heartbeat. Episcopal is poisoning their students with CRT.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:10 pm to Boogalie
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No it doesn't. May I ask, have you ever misspoken? These elected people are not perfect, the substance is what is central. Do you really think he meant the 'good' of slavery? In the words of Joe Biden "c'mon man"
My question is, what’s his actual complaint about how slavery is being taught?
I know he fricked up, but I just Don’t understand how he got to that point.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:10 pm to chalmetteowl
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I will say this. It’s one thing to require a concept to be taught.
It’s another entirely to require that a concept NOT be taught
They should teach it, honestly.
We teach the concept of communism and (hopefully) teach that is is always catastrophic failure that leads to the death of millions.
We should teach the concept of systemic racism and that it is a fabrication of insane ideologues.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:10 pm to SammyTiger
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My question is, what’s his actual complaint about how slavery is being taught?
Is it being taught as the foundation of our country ? 1619ish?
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:11 pm to GeauxTigerTM
If this is authentic, the BESE board is a problem all self contained. Will have to do some homework on this. Could you please give me the origin of this letter and who were the signatories on it, am very curious?
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:11 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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The truth is that systemic and institutionalized racism and sexism do exist.
They certainly do. Case in point: affirmative action.
They're not talking about that systemic and institutionalized racism though, they're talking about the shite they're making up out of thin air.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:21 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Are you suggesting the BESE board is referring to that, or the type of systemic racism that allows for Asians to be discriminated against when it comes to college admissions?
I don't think that's what they are talking about.
Let's not cherry pick here but of course they aren't referring to affirmative action and university admissions standards for Asians.
I'm sure they would argue that the way school funding tied to student performance is racist. However, this again could be countered with the argument that by saying this is racist that one is assuming that black and brown students will always perform lower on standardized exams.
So really, my point is that a lot of thinking about how to help certain constituents of the population is actually quite racist in the assumptions being made. These are socioeconomic issues, yet it's far easier to blame abstract notions such as systemic racism.
Our nation provides so many services to help get kids educated and into the work force. Free school to all children, with transportation and meals provided. Local libraries that host tutoring sessions, provide career counseling, and provide access to free educational programs. Not to mention social wellfare programs that provide health care, housing, and food stipends.
It's not systemic and institutional racism that are the problem. Instead it is systemic victimization and institutional dependence creating a negative feedback loop.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:22 pm to SammyTiger
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My question is, what’s his actual complaint about how slavery is being taught?
I know he fricked up, but I just Don’t understand how he got to that point.
I believe he was responding to critics who say that it is important to teach about key issues like slavery. And he responded, just teach the facts rather than subjective opinion. As long as it is factual you can teach everything about slavery "the good, the bad and the ugly." By which he meant everything.
I am summarizing and probably leaving out important bits, but that's the essence of it.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:23 pm to CamdenTiger
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It’s basically more Marxism infiltration
Absolutely.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:28 pm to BigJim
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I believe he was responding to critics who say that it is important to teach about key issues like slavery. And he responded, just teach the facts rather than subjective opinion. As long as it is factual you can teach everything about slavery "the good, the bad and the ugly." By which he meant everything.
What “subjective opinions” is he really concerned about.
Slavery being bad and inhuman is subjective, but it’s also pretty much universally agreed upon.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:30 pm to SammyTiger
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Slavery being bad and inhuman is subjective, but it’s also pretty much universally agreed upon.
Quite true. For example:
Ephesians 6:5-8 Paul states, “Slaves, be obedient to your human masters with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ”
I actually think examination of these kinds of texts viewed in a historical context would be eye opening. Instead we now must cancel anyone and everyone that may have owned slaves.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:32 pm to SammyTiger
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What “subjective opinions” is he really concerned about.
Slavery being bad and inhuman is subjective, but it’s also pretty much universally agreed upon.
Are you familiar with the 1619 Project ?
I believe that would be an example.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:34 pm to SammyTiger
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Slavery being bad and inhuman is subjective, but it’s also pretty much universally agreed upon.
A positive aspect you could teach children is that the immense and horrible sacrifice your forefathers made allowed you to be born in the most wonderful country on the planet. There is hopefully some solace in that.
Similar, but not in the stratosphere in magnitude, to how I think about the sacrifice mine made.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 1:42 pm to Turbeauxdog
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A positive aspect you could teach children is that the immense and horrible sacrifice your forefathers made allowed you to be born in the most wonderful country on the planet. There is hopefully some solace in that.
That would require English classes to teach a different definition of the word “sacrifice”
People talk about rewriting history and then spout this bullshite.
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