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re: COVID-19 not found in isolation
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:41 am to Jake88
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:41 am to Jake88
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What does this have to do with your claim that it hasn't been isolated? Why not build automobiles like they did in the 1970s and before? Why use advances in technology?
Because the old way works and is much more safe. This HAS NOT been properly studied in humans, the old way has.
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:42 am to zatetic
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no one could prove it in isolation.
You guys.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:43 am to zatetic
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the rate of people dying didn't change.
In a “normal” year, deaths increase year over year by 30k-50k. If the preliminary numbers are anywhere near correct, we are looking at an increase of 400k+.
That feels like a rate change.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:45 am to loogaroo
No the covid people are bs, Alberta would not be free now if it was actually found in isolation. The only thing remotely close is people using a machine that no one knows how it works. This post does explain the very dirty business of COVID and it being a big scam. Of course this image was wrote by someone who doesn't like the type of people doing the scam...
https://postimg.cc/c6Yt1wyK
https://postimg.cc/c6Yt1wyK
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:48 am to NC_Tigah
Well they couldn't isolate it not in a lab setting. Why is this and what does it mean? It is why Alberta is free now.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:52 am to monstranceclock76
quote:Again, what does this have to do with the claim that it hasn't been isolated?
Because the old way works and is much more safe. This HAS NOT been properly studied in humans, the old way has
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:54 am to zatetic
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Well they couldn't isolate it not in a lab setting.
Who is they? Some halfwit docs? Do you realize that viral isolation and culture is not really in the realm of family practice and is done in a...gasp... laboratory?
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:54 am to Jake88
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Again, what does this have to do with the claim that it hasn't been isolated?
Because that is why Alberta is free, it is in the very first picture of this thread. Sure they can find COVID in their lab under the settings they want while they can't find it in the wild.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:56 am to shell01
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Who is they? Some halfwit docs? Do you realize that viral isolation and culture is not really in the realm of family practice and is done in a...gasp... laboratory?
It means they can't find it in people.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:58 am to zatetic
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Well they couldn't isolate it not in a lab setting
quote:Where do you think the above isolation is happening, a bar room?
SARS-CoV-2 caused a major outbreak of severe pneumonia (COVID-19) in humans. Viral RNA was detected in multiple organs in COVID-19 patients. However, infectious SARS-CoV-2 was only isolated from respiratory specimens. Here, infectious SARS-CoV-2 was successfully isolated from urine of a COVID-19 patient. The virus isolated could infect new susceptible cells and was recognized by its' own patient sera
Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:04 am to jonnyanony
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jonnyanony
In case you’re interested, read the paper I link below. It’s not the best but it’s not bad, and is the quickest find for me on my phone this morning.
LINK
If you really want to educate yourself on this topic, go read through the Twitter feed of the Ethical Skeptic . You self-identify as a stats guy, you’ll really enjoy/learn a lot from him.
Ethical Skeptoc Twitter Feed
I’m not one that argues Covid isn’t a real thing. I believe how it’s been handled/used for political purposes is a f’n scam, but the virus is nasty for the unwell/frail.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:05 am to David_DJS
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Are you arguing that “last year” is not considered in the modeling?
Apologies if you're not a native speaker, but ...
When I said "they don't just go off of last year" it indicates that last year is included but not in isolation.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:05 am to NC_Tigah
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NC_Tigah
Still, laboratory standards of COV 2 are not available or they don’t exist. That’s more convincing proof than random pictures.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:07 am to Vastmind
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Still, laboratory standards of COV 2 are not available or they don’t exist.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:08 am to monstranceclock76
quote:They ARE being developed. Several reasons for the synthetics though:
So, why the synthetic vaccines then? Why not make a vaccine using part of the virus like usual?
• Most importantly, mRNA can be quickly designed and scaled up. So they are going to get to market before traditional types.
• mRNA manufacturing is sequence-independent, which makes it highly adaptable to different pathogens, meaning it can be altered much more quickly.
• Although cost was secondary to speed of mRNA development, cost is also lower than other platforms.
• Unlike live-attenuated or viral-vectored vaccines, mRNA is non-infectious and poses no concern for DNA integration—mainly because it cannot enter the nucleus which contains DNA.
• Traditional inactivated vaccines require chemicals and cell cultures to produce, creating allergenic issues not seen with mRNA types.
• There are numerous traditional or semi-traditional development efforts underway. As stated, they just take longer to come to fruition. China's Sinovac is an example currently in distribution, though it is an incredibly poor performer. Novavax should exit trials shortly. The challenge with traditionals is finding funding and/or test volunteers when other known effective options already reached market.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 9:10 am
Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:09 am to zatetic
Hmmmm
Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:14 am to jonnyanony
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quote:
Still, laboratory standards of COV 2 are not available or they don’t exist.
quote:
jonnyanony
Show me where to buy the standard.
The fraudulent PCR test tests against a digital copy that can’t distinguish between COV 19 and the flu. That’s why they are discontinuing it.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:15 am to NC_Tigah
quote:But, But, but...
mRNA is non-infectious and poses no concern for DNA integration—mainly because it cannot enter the nucleus which contains DNA
Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:16 am to zatetic
quote:It means you don't understand WTF you are talking about.
what does it mean?
It means the dummies concocting various assertions you reference cite Koch's Postulates.
Koch's Postulates have nothing whatsoever to do with virology. They deal with bacteria.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:20 am to Vastmind
quote:For Christsakes!
Still, laboratory standards of COV 2 are not available or they don’t exist. That’s more convincing proof than random pictures.
quote:
I thought, given the quality of the thread, pictures were better suited.
But if you prefer scientific studies, yet were oddly incapacitated in ability to do your own search, here are a few examples of SARS-CoV-2 isolation:
Virus Isolation from the First Patient with SARS-CoV-2 in Korea
Isolation and rapid sharing of the 2019 novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) from the first patient diagnosed with COVID-19 in Australia
Isolation and characterization of an early SARS-CoV-2 isolate from the 2020 epidemic in Medellín, Colombia
Characteristics of SARS-CoV-2 Isolated from Asymptomatic Carriers in Tokyo
First isolation of SARS-CoV-2 from clinical samples in India
Isolation of infectious SARS-CoV-2 from urine of a COVID-19 patient
Isolation and Full Length Genome of SARS-CoV-2 from Clinical Samples in Italy
Phenol-chloroform-based RNA purification for detection of SARS-CoV-2 by RT-qPCR: Comparison with automated systems
Full genome sequence of the first SARS-CoV-2 detected in Mexico
Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 from Patient with Coronavirus Disease, United States
McMaster researcher plays key role in isolating COVID-19 virus for use in urgent research
How our team isolated the new coronavirus to fight the global pandemic
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