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Covid-19 had us all fooled
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:23 am
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:23 am
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Ventilators are not only the wrong solution, but high pressure intubation can actually wind up causing more damage than without, not to mention complications from tracheal scarring and ulcers given the duration of intubation often required… They may still have a use in the immediate future for patients too far to bring back with this newfound knowledge, but moving forward a new treatment protocol needs to be established so we stop treating patients for the wrong disease.
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All that hilariously misguided and counterproductive criticism the media piled on chloroquine (purely for political reasons) as a viable treatment will now go down as the biggest Fake News blunder to rule them all. The media actively engaged their activism to fight ‘bad orange man’ at the cost of thousands of lives. Shame on them.
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The reason chloroquine works for malaria is the same reason it works for COVID-19 — while not fully understood, it is suspected to bind to DNA and interfere with the ability to work magic on hemoglobin. The same mechanism that stops malaria from getting its hands on hemoglobin and gobbling it up seems to do the same to COVID-19 (essentially little snippets of DNA in an envelope) from binding to it. On top of that, Hydroxychloroquine (an advanced descendant of regular old chloroquine) lowers the pH which can interfere with the replication of the virus. Again, while the full details are not known, the entire premise of this potentially ‘game changing’ treatment is to prevent hemoglobin from being interfered with, whether due to malaria or COVID-19.
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 10:26 am
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:24 am to offshoretrash
This must be making the rounds on Facebook.
Seen it posted a few times.
Good read though!
Seen it posted a few times.
Good read though!
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 10:36 am
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:25 am to offshoretrash
Got one of them there link thingys?
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:26 am to offshoretrash
As far as I'm aware, doctors are only using ventilators as a last resort.
They ain't using it in lieu of hydroxychloroquine.
They ain't using it in lieu of hydroxychloroquine.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:27 am to SSpaniel
Finally got the link to work.
I'm not saying this is the gospel but I'd like to see what everyone else thinks. I hope this means they are getting closer to a cure and/or treatment.
I'm not saying this is the gospel but I'd like to see what everyone else thinks. I hope this means they are getting closer to a cure and/or treatment.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:31 am to offshoretrash
I read this earlier. It sounds interesting, but who is libertymavenstock and why should we trust him?
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:33 am to offshoretrash
I’m sure patients are only put on ventilators when they go into respiratory failure. At that point, what else are you going to do?
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:35 am to deaconjones35
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but who is libertymavenstock and why should we trust him?
I completely agree with your questioning. But it does sound like he is informed.
I would love for a real doctor here to discuss whether or not he is correct in his assessment.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:36 am to offshoretrash
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high pressure intubation can actually wind up causing more damage than without, not to mention complications from tracheal scarring and ulcers given the duration of intubation often required…
I have no idea about anything else posted, but this part is basically what a respiratory therapist family member told me a week or so ago.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:41 am to deaconjones35
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I read this earlier. It sounds interesting, but who is libertymavenstock and why should we trust him?
My guess was that he's either in crypto or cannabis...and yep, he's the guy behind the Turbadium crypto.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:42 am to offshoretrash
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I completely agree with your questioning. But it does sound like he is informed.
I would love for a real doctor here to discuss whether or not he is correct in his assessment.
Much of what he is saying about what the virus must be doing to the body correlates with what the ER doctor in New York has been saying on YouTube.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:44 am to offshoretrash
Why post this garbage?
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:50 am to theronswanson
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Why post this garbage?
And here they come...
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:52 am to loogaroo
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This must be making the rounds on Facebook. Seen it posted a few times.
My brother, who is a Respiratory Therapist, posted it this morning, first time I've seen it.
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 10:55 am
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:59 am to offshoretrash
Well, it's true that one of the proposed mechanisms for chloroquine's anitmalarial activity is DNA binding, but COVID-19 is an RNA virus, so there's one hole in his logic right there.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 11:58 am to Jwho77
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Much of what he is saying about what the virus must be doing to the body correlates with what the ER doctor in New York has been saying on YouTube.
So it wasn't just luck
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:11 pm to Tacoma Tiger
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Well, it's true that one of the proposed mechanisms for chloroquine's anitmalarial activity is DNA binding, but COVID-19 is an RNA virus, so there's one hole in his logic right there.
Not necessarily. He states that it interfere's with COVID-19's ability to bind do the iron ion -- but didn't explain (or try to explain) the mechanism behind it. In other words, he didn't say it works in the exact same way with the two diseases -- only that it has similar effect.
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