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Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:26 pm to bmy
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You realize this is Obamas success right?
It's America's success, courtesy of our military.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:27 pm to TX Tiger
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Oh, that's right; it's my fault you're being played for a fool by the establishment.
Don't be silly. You would be a fool even if there were no establishment. It is the real you.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:28 pm to bmy
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Well, this is the end result of the strategy the US has used for the last half decade
No Obamas strategy was to withdraw from the region that lead to ISIS.
THen Obama's strategy was to try to contain it and watch it grow.
Then he drew a red line in Syria that he did not follow through on.
Then with a year or two in his presidency on the run up to the next election the Democrats realized that they had to do something. So he finally at least started to push back against ISIS.
So this whole ISIS thing is due to Obama's regional policy failures.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:29 pm to NeverRains
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:36 pm to Gray Tiger
quote:I have this uncanny ability to trigger the sheople.
Oh, that's right; it's my fault you're being played for a fool by the establishment.
Don't be silly. You would be a fool even if there were no establishment. It is the real you.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:05 pm to bencoleman
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Bullfrickingshit.
Stephanopoulos: "Some of your critics say, even your friendly critics say, like Fareed Zakaria, that what you have on the ground now is not going to be enough. Every couple of months you're going to be faced with the same choice of back down or double down."
Obama: "I think what is true is that this has always been a multiyear project precisely because the governance structures in the Sunni areas of Iraq are weak, and there are none in Syria. And we don't have ground forces there in sufficient numbers to simply march into Al-Raqqah in Syria and clean the whole place out. And as a consequence, we've always understood that our goal has to be militarily constraining ISIL's capabilities, cutting off their supply lines, cutting off their financing at the same time as we're putting a political track together in Syria and fortifying the best impulses in Baghdad so that we can, not just win militarily, but also win by improving governance."
Stephanopoulos: "And that's the strategy you've been following. But ISIS is gaining strength, aren't they?"
Obama: "Well, no, I don't think they're gaining strength. What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq. And in Syria they'll come in, they'll leave. But you don't see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain. What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures. We've made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters."
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:11 pm to EKG
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It's America's success, courtesy of our military.
Absolutely. Trump did well continuing and expanding the course of action recommended by his military braintrust. And yes, much of what we're seeing is the continuation of effort begun by the prior administration.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:13 pm to bmy
quote:El oh friggin el. God damn you are retarded
You realize this is Obamas success right?
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:43 pm to bmy
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bmy
You fricking imbecile Obama was training, arming and financing ISIS through Jordan. Obama was never serious about defeating them because he was instrumental in creating them in the first place.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:54 pm to ItTakesAThief
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No Obamas strategy was to withdraw from the region that lead to ISIS.
That would be a good strategy.
ISIS came about when The Bushies broke up Saddam's security state.
And it was predicted by Dick Cheney.
LINK
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:57 pm to bencoleman
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You fricking imbecile Obama was training, arming and financing ISIS through Jordan. Obama was never serious about defeating them because he was instrumental in creating them in the first place.
Bush did that, not Obama.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:59 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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Bush did that, not Obama
Obama trained,armed and financed ISIS in Jordan. That point is not debatable because it's a fact.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 6:03 pm to Numberwang
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ISIS is the purest form of Islam, which is the religion of Satan.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 6:16 pm to bencoleman
We invaded Iraq in 2003. Obama became president in 2009.
What happened in Iraq during those six years?
Here is a likely scenario.
Bush creates ISIS by wrecking Iraq. In his turn Obama funds ISIS in Syria.
Who is the big winner? Israel. And we foot the bill in blood and treasure.
What happened in Iraq during those six years?
Here is a likely scenario.
Bush creates ISIS by wrecking Iraq. In his turn Obama funds ISIS in Syria.
Who is the big winner? Israel. And we foot the bill in blood and treasure.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 6:17 pm to Lsuchs
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You realize this is Obamas success right?
30MAR17: Trump administration stops disclosing troop deployments in Iraq and Syria
26APR17: Trump gives Pentagon more flexibility on Iraq, Syria troops
5MAY17: Trump May Soon Deploy a Lot More Troops
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So far, in its counterterrorism strategy, the Trump administration has continued the Obama administration’s preference for relying on airstrikes, special forces raids, and training and equipping local forces, rather than large, costly, and politically unpopular troop deployments. But there are some signs that could change.
15JUN17: US sending almost 4,000 extra forces to Afghanistan, Trump official says
Bet things picked up in Iraq/Syria first
Is this a joke?
Posted on 6/26/17 at 7:36 pm to MrCarton
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Is this a joke?
That trump stepped things up, and that probably had some effect on the fact that there are "hundreds" of fighters left?
Posted on 6/26/17 at 8:29 pm to gthog61
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Well if you are going to say that bush got obama
Sure
Posted on 6/26/17 at 8:42 pm to Numberwang
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ISIS is the purest form of Islam, which is the religion of Satan.
Well, it that is true, then we just fricked up by committing over $300 billion in arms sales to the Grandaddy of all Jihadism - Saudi Arabia.
Trump is a Goddamn fool. What about that 911 report that the idiot savant is supposed to release?
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 8:43 pm
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