Could arresting Trump be the spark that starts the next Civil War?

On what charges?

And is “pissing me off” a felony or misdemeanor?

There won't be a civil war...

Cause the right is too busy working and enjoying their lives. Don't want to go to jail for murder and miss the ball game on Sunday.

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On what charges?

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Trumped up

Wait - if a Democrat arrests him, isn't that immediate grounds for removal of that Democrat (or impeachment if it is Biden)?

That's what I was told when Trump wanted the Ukrainian business looked into.

What am I missing?

I wouldn’t be surprised if they do it eventually. But I do think they’ll wait for the window to shift.

They’ll start smaller. Maybe put Rudy behind bars first.

Go both ways on this.

Trump is not a good hill to die on in a "they got our leader Trump!" sense

But the powers of this country tirelessly pursuing an ideological enemy and arresting him after an unnecessary and bullshite investigation on bullshite charges is a good hill to die on

Regardless, the country is a long way from something resembling civil war. But presumably if it's ever on the horizon, there are going to be a lot of flare ups before things genuinely ignite, so that could happen with a Trump arrest.

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the country is a long way from something resembling civil war.

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I don’t know. The hate is real. What happens if there’s a Lexington moment?

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And is “pissing me off” a felony or misdemeanor?

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I don’t know. The hate is real. What happens if there’s a Lexington moment?

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A couple things IMO

- We might need to adjust what we mean by civil war. The idea of huge swaths of the country warring with one another is probably unrealistic. But 1% of the country (or less) engaging in unrest/urban terrorism massively disrupted the nation last year, so you don't really need those swaths, maybe.

- I worry what the spark at the wrong time will mean. Every institution has sought to make 1/6 a huge turning point/blight on America, and I don't think it's really working. but had 10 police officers and a couple of legislators been killed, what do you think would have happened? Perhaps a Biden administration would have gone overboard in response, allowing for patriots who didn't support the 1/6 hypothetical killings to still get on board against a tyrannical state. But if it didn't, or if it did what it's doing now, which is a slow burn overreach, it probably is successful in discrediting any revolutionary/counterrevolutionary fervor because "normal" Americans don't want to see police killed and they don't want to put their jobs and families on the line for a flawed effort.

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In practice, you can’t have 1984 until you create an enemy for people to hate. Once you have that, and convince enough people of that, then you can have your “2 mins hate” with CNN and MSNBC to reinforce it. In other words, they can’t have “the party” unless they have a perpetual nemesis. Putting him in jail does nothing. They have to create the illusion that Trump is continually evading their pursuit.

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It's a good point. That said, it's kind of a problem with revolutions. You end up eliminating the premise or agent that bound the revolutionary factions together prematurely, and it falls apart.

In other words, I think you're right it might not be wise. But it doesn't mean it won't happen.