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re: Convince me why I should care if Trump worked with Russia
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:29 pm to thelawnwranglers
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:29 pm to thelawnwranglers
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Convince me why I should care if Trump worked with Russia
this is a prime example of putting party ahead of country... i can't imagine the level of idiocy it takes to get to this point, as a person...
they'd watch the world burn as long as "their guy" is in charge... un-fricking-believable
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Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:29 pm to thelawnwranglers
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what are those?
I am assuming he got a preview of hacked stuff
You sure you want to go down that rabbit hole? The far left has just as many conspiracy theorist as the right does.
Twitter is a good place to start.
Search on Twitter for Claude Taylor. He'll get you started on Trump/Russia worst case scenario stuff. He's actually been right on a few scoops lately (the FBI raid yesterday and some other stuff) but he's mostly just a far left Alex Jones.
I'm in no way saying I believe any of the far left loon stuff but if you want to read it for yourself then have at it.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:30 pm to thelawnwranglers
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I don't like the sounds of it, but not sure I care. If you can paint a picture of him needing to report things to the FBI or him being influenced by Russia in the future those are good turning arguments.
if obama crafted the iran deal in exchange for helping win the 2012 election, would you have an issue with that?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:30 pm to thelawnwranglers
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I think if you could paint a scenario where Russia somehow now has influence over Trump that would be a break point for me.
You mean, for example, if the only part of the Republican Platform the Trump Campaign insisted on altering dealt with US response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:31 pm to thelawnwranglers
The only people that care are the ones that don't want to talk about the "content" of the hacks.
It's like speeding and being mad at the cop for hiding.
So stupid.
It's like speeding and being mad at the cop for hiding.
So stupid.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:32 pm to thelawnwranglers
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I don't like the sounds of it, but not sure I care. If you can paint a picture of him needing to report things to the FBI or him being influenced by Russia in the future those are good turning arguments.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:35 pm to thelawnwranglers
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by phishing Podesta?
I mean we are using scary language here, but Podesta got phished.
I think Podesta is more dangerous than Russia.
UK spied Trump and we are cool with that no?
You understand that falls under the legal category of identity theft right?
This is your hypothetical scenario by the way.
If the president actively was made aware of the hack and its nature and purpose, then decided to coordinate the use of that material with that foreign government, it would be a serious issue.
Or do you think that is a functional and healthy way to maintain a democracy? Welcoming foreign powers to conduct espionage and then collaborate with candidates to disperse that information strategically and without consequence?
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:37 pm to chRxis
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Convince me why I should care if Trump worked with Russia
this is a prime example of putting party ahead of country..
The Russians hacked a party....not the country.
Fail.
Fail hard.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:40 pm to CptBengal
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The Russians hacked a party.
And they used that hacked info to interfere with our democratic process.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:44 pm to CptBengal
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The Russians hacked a party....not the country.
Fail.
Fail hard.
So if Nancy Pelosi publicly called for the Chinese to hack Trump, they hacked Trump and gave Nancy all of Trump's emails which she then used to destroy his Presidency, you'd be okay with it?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:46 pm to The Spleen
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And they used that hacked info to interfere with our democratic process.
how did they do that?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:48 pm to montanagator
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they hacked Trump and gave Nancy all of Trump's emails
wait..Trump had podestas emails?
link?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:49 pm to The Spleen
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And they used that hacked info to interfere with our democratic process.
this is what hardcore Trump supporters either are too stupid or too unwilling to see... they only see the Rep vs. Dems, and the Rep won.... but they don't see the possible HUGE implications of what may have happened for the future of our election process....
it's really sad and pathetic... but considering they are usually baby back bitches, it's not all that surprising...
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:51 pm to bonhoeffer45
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I honestly can not believe someone is this dense.
You must be new here
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:51 pm to chRxis
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And they used that hacked info to interfere with our democratic process.
this is what hardcore Trump supporters either are too stupid or too unwilling to see.
how did the emails interfere with our democratic process?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:51 pm to chRxis
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this is what hardcore Trump supporters either are too stupid or too unwilling to see... they only see the Rep vs. Dems, and the Rep won.... but they don't see the possible HUGE implications of what may have happened for the future of our election process....
The same ones that are 110% convinced there is massive voter fraud and we must do all we can to make voting as difficult as possible.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:53 pm to The Spleen
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The Spleen
How did release of the emails interfere with our democratic process?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:54 pm to chRxis
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this is a prime example of putting party ahead of country... i can't imagine the level of idiocy it takes to get to this point, as a person...
they'd watch the world burn as long as "their guy" is in charge... un-fricking-believable
I wish total destruction of both parties tbh
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:57 pm to thelawnwranglers
He changed his stance on Crimea shortly after hiring Manafort (more favorable toward Russia). If there was any sort of quid pro quo with the Wikileaks deal, that's incredibly problematic. He potentially altered US foreign policy in exchange for xyz - & it doesn't matter what the xyz is, it's treason.
Of course he never thought he'd actually win ....(and neither did any of you because I offered a lifetime ban bet several times and had no takers) so it probably seems like free press and a good way to "stick it to the establishment", and build his brand at the time. He just didn't plan on winning.
Of course he never thought he'd actually win ....(and neither did any of you because I offered a lifetime ban bet several times and had no takers) so it probably seems like free press and a good way to "stick it to the establishment", and build his brand at the time. He just didn't plan on winning.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 5/12/17 at 4:00 pm to The Spleen
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And they used that hacked info to interfere with our democratic process.
How? Please answer one of us.
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