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Constitutional Amendments
Posted on 2/1/23 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 2/1/23 at 3:54 pm
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I know this is from the Washington Post, but try to consider the actual substance. This is about 5 proposed amendments that were done by law professors across the ideological spectrum.
Amendments are listed in 3rd post.
I know this is from the Washington Post, but try to consider the actual substance. This is about 5 proposed amendments that were done by law professors across the ideological spectrum.
Amendments are listed in 3rd post.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 2/1/23 at 3:55 pm to LSU2ALA
Please post link or something that will lead us to said amendments.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 3:59 pm to LSU2ALA
The first one is
The 28th Amendment would eliminate the natural-born citizenship requirement for the presidency. If the amendment passed, Henry Kissinger and Arnold Schwarzenegger could run for president.
Don’t really care a lot about this either way.
The 29th Amendment would allow for legislative vetoes of executive and regulatory actions. All three teams shared concerns about an imperial presidency and a runaway administrative state, typically a conservative and libertarian bugaboo. And they all found a solution in resurrecting the legislative veto, which allows Congress to negate executive actions by majority vote. Congress exercised this power from 1932 until the Supreme Court struck it down in 1983, a decision that the delegates’ amendment would overrule.
LOVE THIS ONE! Curb the presidential powers.
The 30th Amendment would seek to avoid partisan impeachments while making it easier to remove dangerous presidents. It would reform the presidential impeachment process by replacing “Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors” as cause for impeachment with “serious criminal acts, or for serious abuse of the public trust.” In other words, not all crimes would be impeachable and not all impeachable conduct would be criminal. And while the current Constitution requires a majority of the House to impeach and two-thirds of the Senate to convict, the amendment would change both thresholds to three-fifths, making it harder to impeach but easier to convict.
Interesting one. Could get behind this one.
The 31st Amendment would set 18-year term limits for Supreme Court justices, with staggered terms allowing for a vacancy every two years. Thus each president would get to appoint two Supreme Court justices per four-year term, regularizing and de-politicizing the Supreme Court confirmation process. It would also require the Senate to vote on all nominees. (In other words, no ignoring Merrick Garland.) If a sitting justice died or left the court, the president would nominate a successor to fill out the end of that term.
Love this one.
The 32nd Amendment would make proposing and ratifying future amendments a little easier. Congress could propose amendments by a three-fifths vote of both Houses (down from two-thirds), and amendments would become law when ratified by two-thirds of the states (down from three-fourths). The delegates also added an alternative, population-based amendment track, so that small states couldn’t block overwhelming majorities from changing the Constitution. On this other track, states representing two-thirds of the national population could force Congress to propose amendments, and states representing three-fourths of the population could call a Constitutional Convention themselves. And all proposed amendments would go into effect if ratified by states representing three-fourths of the population.
I like the first part, but I don’t like doing it based off of population.
Thoughts?
The 28th Amendment would eliminate the natural-born citizenship requirement for the presidency. If the amendment passed, Henry Kissinger and Arnold Schwarzenegger could run for president.
Don’t really care a lot about this either way.
The 29th Amendment would allow for legislative vetoes of executive and regulatory actions. All three teams shared concerns about an imperial presidency and a runaway administrative state, typically a conservative and libertarian bugaboo. And they all found a solution in resurrecting the legislative veto, which allows Congress to negate executive actions by majority vote. Congress exercised this power from 1932 until the Supreme Court struck it down in 1983, a decision that the delegates’ amendment would overrule.
LOVE THIS ONE! Curb the presidential powers.
The 30th Amendment would seek to avoid partisan impeachments while making it easier to remove dangerous presidents. It would reform the presidential impeachment process by replacing “Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors” as cause for impeachment with “serious criminal acts, or for serious abuse of the public trust.” In other words, not all crimes would be impeachable and not all impeachable conduct would be criminal. And while the current Constitution requires a majority of the House to impeach and two-thirds of the Senate to convict, the amendment would change both thresholds to three-fifths, making it harder to impeach but easier to convict.
Interesting one. Could get behind this one.
The 31st Amendment would set 18-year term limits for Supreme Court justices, with staggered terms allowing for a vacancy every two years. Thus each president would get to appoint two Supreme Court justices per four-year term, regularizing and de-politicizing the Supreme Court confirmation process. It would also require the Senate to vote on all nominees. (In other words, no ignoring Merrick Garland.) If a sitting justice died or left the court, the president would nominate a successor to fill out the end of that term.
Love this one.
The 32nd Amendment would make proposing and ratifying future amendments a little easier. Congress could propose amendments by a three-fifths vote of both Houses (down from two-thirds), and amendments would become law when ratified by two-thirds of the states (down from three-fourths). The delegates also added an alternative, population-based amendment track, so that small states couldn’t block overwhelming majorities from changing the Constitution. On this other track, states representing two-thirds of the national population could force Congress to propose amendments, and states representing three-fourths of the population could call a Constitutional Convention themselves. And all proposed amendments would go into effect if ratified by states representing three-fourths of the population.
I like the first part, but I don’t like doing it based off of population.
Thoughts?
Posted on 2/1/23 at 4:00 pm to conservativewifeymom
Sorry. I hit send too soon earlier. I adjusted it a bit ago.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 4:01 pm to LSU2ALA
Copy and paste from the link, not subscribing to WAPO
Posted on 2/1/23 at 4:03 pm to JColtF
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Copy and paste from the link, not subscribing to WAPO
Man, I’m making a hash of this. Sorry. I have done it now in the second post.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 4:05 pm to LSU2ALA
Five amendments and that's what they came up with? These are hot garbage.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 4:09 pm to LSU2ALA
I like the legislative veto. Makes sense
Like term limits for justices but wouldn’t stop at justices. senators and reps too.
The impeachment on seems like it’s making it more vague.
I would want a minimum voter threshold turnout rule for any population based amendment vote.
Like term limits for justices but wouldn’t stop at justices. senators and reps too.
The impeachment on seems like it’s making it more vague.
I would want a minimum voter threshold turnout rule for any population based amendment vote.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 4:09 pm to Onyx Aggie
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Five amendments and that's what they came up with? These are hot garbage.
Why? Remember these are amendments that have to appeal to a wide enough spectrum to pass. The goal was to find agreement on something that could pass and make improvements not a dream list for one side.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 4:11 pm to SammyTiger
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I would want a minimum voter threshold turnout rule for any population based amendment vote.
That’s an interesting idea.
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Like term limits for justices but wouldn’t stop at justices. senators and reps too.
Not a problem with this either.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 4:14 pm to LSU2ALA
quote:I don't like much from this list, but this one, I don't like at all.
The 32nd Amendment would make proposing and ratifying future amendments a little easier.
It's supposed to be hard to amend the constitution.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 4:18 pm to LSU2ALA
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All three teams shared concerns about an imperial presidency and a runaway administrative state,
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typically a conservative and libertarian bugaboo.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 4:18 pm to LSU2ALA
F having term limits for Justices unless congressmen are willing to abide by them as well. I'd like to see their limit set at 12 years.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 2/1/23 at 4:19 pm to FooManChoo
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I don't like much from this list, but this one, I don't like at all. It's supposed to be hard to amend the constitution.
And that’s fair. You don’t like the idea of letting Congress curtail Executive Orders and such. Congress has delegated too much authority to the Executive. Let them take it back.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 4:20 pm to CarRamrod
What is confusing? Conservatives and libertarians definitely don’t like the administrative state having so much power.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 4:20 pm to LSU2ALA
quote:
The 31st Amendment would set 18-year term limits for Supreme Court justices, with staggered terms allowing for a vacancy every two years. Thus each president would get to appoint two Supreme Court justices per four-year term, regularizing and de-politicizing the Supreme Court confirmation process. It would also require the Senate to vote on all nominees. (In other words, no ignoring Merrick Garland.) If a sitting justice died or left the court, the president would nominate a successor to fill out the end of that term.
Love this one.
Unless Congress first pushes term limits for themselves also, this is merely a power grab
Posted on 2/1/23 at 4:23 pm to LSU2ALA
quote:it reads as the conservatives and libertarians are the ones running the out of control administrative state.
What is confusing? Conservatives and libertarians definitely don’t like the administrative state having so much power.
Maybe i read it wrong.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 4:24 pm to AUHighPlainsDrifter
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F having term limits for Justices unless congressmen are willing to abide by them as well. I'd like to see their set at 12 years.
Why? I would be fine with term limits for Congress, but I wouldn’t turn down term limits for SCOTUS just because I can’t get it for Congress. Get rid of really old justices.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 4:25 pm to CarRamrod
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it reads as the conservatives and libertarians are the ones running the out of control administrative state. Maybe i read it wrong.
I got you. It does read a little wonky now that you mention it.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 4:27 pm to tommy2tone1999
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Unless Congress first pushes term limits for themselves also, this is merely a power grab
At least Congress is accountable to us at election time. SCOTUS is not at all.
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