- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Conservative, adult entertainer Brandi Love kicked out of Turning Point USA event tonight
Posted on 7/18/21 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 7/18/21 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
if you think you can come close to winning by promoting authoritarian Evangelicalism, you're wrong
the only reason Trump won is because he showed you guys how that path is a losing one, politically. you can keep your morality and lose, or widen the base by leaving that in churches to give you a shot at winning. you literally can't support Trump's agenda and shun people like Brandi Love
Firstly, a parent can teach ideas that are contrary and restrictive to 'fun'...but given the enthusiastic irrationality of youth...you will lose that battle. And perhaps it should be lost; a Christian can refer back to the 'Original' battle re the right or duty to know, but forfeit one's innocence in the process. Think Adam and Eve. God did NOT kick 'Brandi Love' (The Serpent/Tree of Knowledge) out of the potential education process. The right to know and make an educated choice is validated.
This said...what is "winning"; from a Christian perspective? The old adage "you can't legislate morality" applies.
But more so, "You can keep your morality and lose"! Wow. If B. Love - or anybody - DENIES Morality as a First Premise of a Constitutional Ideology which is totally based on God (with the assumption that Rights come from God and not the Majority Vote/Democracy) and cast out the very Idea that such governance is based on because it is moral...well...pay the price of loss. Because throwing Morality out is a sure fire turn on to the 'road to perdition'.
I won't argue this further, bowing to Thomas Sowell's "First Premise" principle. Sowell affirmed that it is useless and even counter productive to debate any issue wherein one's CHOSEN First Principle is polar. The 'debate' grows farther apart from the first words.
We can not protect or 'teach'/'educate' our children against acquiring a knowledge of the whole Truth. But the idea that (selfish, IMO) people like B. Love, or any person that denies Morality, should be lifted into a leadership role, is ludicrous on it's face.
Book it...when the dust settles from what is coming...beautiful, spiritual women will NOT be flashing their beautiful arses all over the public as a symbolic act of their (Freedom Ideology) 'leadership' qualifications.
"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools". Oh well. Live and learn.
1
Posted on 7/18/21 at 8:56 am to RCDfan1950
quote:
This said...what is "winning";
winning elections that matter is what winning means
quote:
from a Christian perspective?
Christians are fine with losing b/c the religion was built and crafted as a martyr-based religion
winning is cool b/c they go as authoritarian as Communists, but they're fine with losing, too. losing is better for maintaining the church's power
quote:
Wow. If B. Love - or anybody - DENIES Morality as a First Premise of a Constitutional Ideology which is totally based on God (with the assumption that Rights come from God and not the Majority Vote/Democracy) and cast out the very Idea that such governance is based on because it is moral...well...pay the price of loss.
did you support Trump or did you pay the price of loss?
quote:
We can not protect or 'teach'/'educate' our children against acquiring a knowledge of the whole Truth. But the idea that (selfish, IMO) people like B. Love, or any person that denies Morality, should be lifted into a leadership role, is ludicrous on it's face.
did you support Trump or a person who did not deny morality?
Posted on 7/18/21 at 8:57 am to ZIGG
Did Turning Point also kick out the person who recognized her? The only way to know who she is, it seems, would be to have run across some of her work. That means watching her work. Pretty sure that's sinful behavior.
Posted on 7/18/21 at 8:58 am to Bass Tiger
quote:
I think Turning Point is more or less a Christian themed organization. If this gal is still working in the biz of peddling her body I can see why Turning Point said thanks but no thanks.
That's still not very "Christian" of them. Apparently Turning Point has never read the teachings of a man named Jesus Christ.
Posted on 7/18/21 at 8:59 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
so you don't support Trump, right?
You don't.
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:00 am to Azkiger
Jesus told them "Go and sin no more".
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:01 am to Seldom Seen
quote:
You don't.
criticize my political and personal values all you want, but i'm consistent.
people are in here promoting Evangelical authoritarianism while refusing to say they support a person who rejects exactly what they are proclaiming is required to be a "conservative". why?
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:03 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
winning is cool b/c they go as authoritarian as Communists
Libertarian with conservative fiscal values here, and I'm constantly reminded of this fact.
I'm standing shoulder to shoulder with many people like this because they've gotten their asses kicked in a culture war (likely not even their fault - see the trends followed in the rise and fall of the world's superpowers) and we're on the verge of slipping into Communism.
But I know what would happen if they had all the levers of power that progressives have today...
The best this country can expect is a 50/50ish balance of power. Theres a majority of authoritarians on both sides (it's just human nature - like greed), and it seems they'll only value limited government when they're on the receiving end.
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:06 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
criticize my political and personal values all you want, but i'm consistent.
Right you are consistently telling conservatives they should adapt social liberal policies but then when they do you still won't support them and will go and vote democrat.
You're living proof that conservative outreach to democrats on social issues doesn't work. At the end of the day you democrats are still gonna vote democrat.
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:09 am to Seldom Seen
quote:
Right you are consistently telling conservatives they should adapt social liberal policies but then when they do you still won't support them and will go and vote democrat.
I didn't vote for Biden
quote:
You're living proof that conservative outreach to democrats on social issues doesn't work. At the end of the day you democrats are still gonna vote democrat.
I'm...not a Democrat
This isn't about me, though. Do you support Trump? If you do, how do you reconcile Evangelical purity requirements with that support?
Why do you keep refusing to admit you support Trump?
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:17 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
I didn't vote for Biden
Did you vote for TRUMP?
quote:
I'm...not a Democrat
Since when? When did you stop being a Democrat and what made you decide to leave the party?
quote:
This isn't about me, though. Do you support Trump? If you do, how do you reconcile Evangelical purity requirements with that support?
Why do you keep refusing to admit you support Trump?
Everyone here knows I support TRUMP but that doesn't mean I support everything that TRUMP supports.
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:18 am to Azkiger
quote:
quote: but the point is why would an organization that’s trying to elevate the moral behavior of society want working porn stars as part of their movement? Because Jesus still loves porn stars? Be graceful, allow her to speak but pull her aside and try to win her over with love. Have the leaders of Turning point tell her how important she, and her intimate relationships, are to God. That should work better than informing her she's been kicked out via a pre-written email, right?
Probably the best answer……..
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:24 am to Seldom Seen
quote:
Did you vote for TRUMP?
No, but that's irrelevant b/c I've never claimed to be a Trump supporter. It's also irrelevant b/c Trump was winning LA regardless.
quote:
Since when? When did you stop being a Democrat and what made you decide to leave the party?
Like 2005? 2006?
Children are in high school who were born when I stopped being a liberal.
quote:
Everyone here knows I support TRUMP but that doesn't mean I support everything that TRUMP supports.
But that isn't the standard this thread is speaking of re: Brandi Love. You can't make exceptions for Trump's sexual and/or moral debauchery while criticizing someone else for their sexual and/or moral debauchery. If the rules don't apply to Trump, then they don't apply to anyone else as a "conservative".
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:28 am to ZIGG
Not only is she a good frick, but she's a red blooded pro-American conservative? God bless this woman.
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:28 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
But that isn't the standard this thread is speaking of re: Brandi Love. You can't make exceptions for Trump's sexual and/or moral debauchery while criticizing someone else for their sexual and/or moral debauchery. If the rules don't apply to Trump, then they don't apply to anyone else as a "conservative".
Yes you can, it's called politics.
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:29 am to Seldom Seen
quote:
adapt social liberal policies
Which ones?
Which policies are you referring to?
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:29 am to Seldom Seen
quote:
Yes you can, it's called hypocrisy.
FIFY
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:31 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
quote:
Apparently Turning Point has never read the teachings of a man named Jesus Christ.
Evidently neither has most Christians.
The Republican party is dying because of its' exclusionary, trite social stances. shite, Trump was more libertarian on social issues than many of his followers.
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:31 am to Seldom Seen
quote:
Yes you can, it's called politics.
Why don't the rules apply to Trump?
Hell, why don't Trump's policies need to fall in line with the Evangelism?
Why do you get to randomly choose when Evangelical policies are conservative or when they can be ignored within political ideology that is considered "conservative"? What are the clear rules?
Posted on 7/18/21 at 9:36 am to SlowFlowPro
Re supporting Trump. Christians, and even Political Conservatives were VERY skeptical of Trump; but realized that Hillary was a FAR greater danger. Legitimately so. As Trump's life resume was that of a Worldly person. A Doctor is likely a 'Worldly' (think Empirical Reality) person; but we pay them for their Empirical knowledge ability, disregarding their morality. I know this statement is contrary/'hypocritical' to my take on the B. Love thing as she seeks a high profile/leadership role in an Organization that is Morality-based.
The Founders who created a Document codifying that Rights come from God...fully realized that such Freedom enjoyed therein, could only work for "a Moral and Religious people". Otherwise, it is impractical, and will become dysfunctional...with Freedom being lost.
For the record, SF...I DO NOT believe in a Democratic Principled government, wherein the people or neither moral or religious. Morality and Religion (belief in God as THE ultimate unifying principle) being a First Principle which forms everything from there forward.
To believe in "winning elections" wherein the populous is neither "moral (Just) or religious (totally unified via the God First Principle)" is a fool's errand. I mean, what could go wrong there? With dupes and fools and immoral people voting in Obamas, Bidens, Pelosis and Schumers, et al.
I voted for and still support Trump as the lesser of two evils; not because of his morality, in particular things (wild women, and status-based narcissism, etc.), but because of his ability and skillset to serve Constitutional Principle/Freedom. I full well realize that our Freedom, is going away; not because of Trump...but because the People have lost their Spiritual Vision. The only thing that truly unites us. Otherwise, it's "wailing and gnashing of teeth", to see who gets what/how much power. With the ultimate Secular form of 'Moral-based Justice' being an "Animal Farm" version of 'social justice' governance.
IMO, this is way bigger than most now imagine. The (abstract) Vision required for Societal prosperity will not come from talk, or coerced government, especially a Secular (no-God) version...it will come from the calamitous pain of dysfunction, collapse and reboot. Nothing new under the historical record sun.
Gotta go. Later. Good talk.
The Founders who created a Document codifying that Rights come from God...fully realized that such Freedom enjoyed therein, could only work for "a Moral and Religious people". Otherwise, it is impractical, and will become dysfunctional...with Freedom being lost.
For the record, SF...I DO NOT believe in a Democratic Principled government, wherein the people or neither moral or religious. Morality and Religion (belief in God as THE ultimate unifying principle) being a First Principle which forms everything from there forward.
To believe in "winning elections" wherein the populous is neither "moral (Just) or religious (totally unified via the God First Principle)" is a fool's errand. I mean, what could go wrong there? With dupes and fools and immoral people voting in Obamas, Bidens, Pelosis and Schumers, et al.
I voted for and still support Trump as the lesser of two evils; not because of his morality, in particular things (wild women, and status-based narcissism, etc.), but because of his ability and skillset to serve Constitutional Principle/Freedom. I full well realize that our Freedom, is going away; not because of Trump...but because the People have lost their Spiritual Vision. The only thing that truly unites us. Otherwise, it's "wailing and gnashing of teeth", to see who gets what/how much power. With the ultimate Secular form of 'Moral-based Justice' being an "Animal Farm" version of 'social justice' governance.
IMO, this is way bigger than most now imagine. The (abstract) Vision required for Societal prosperity will not come from talk, or coerced government, especially a Secular (no-God) version...it will come from the calamitous pain of dysfunction, collapse and reboot. Nothing new under the historical record sun.
Gotta go. Later. Good talk.
Page 8 of 15
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News