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re: Congressman GIMENEZ says.. "Let's go take them out!"

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Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 6:13 pm to
I’ve stumped you many times at economics.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 6:18 pm to
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I’ve stumped you many times at economics.


You dont even know what economics are.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 6:22 pm to
I have an Economics MS …

You have a level 100 knowledge of Econ and I’ve said it many times.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 6:22 pm to
I'm all for killing bad guys, but I'm tired of these half measures. Either we go with the intention of complete dominion, or we don't bother. Spending billions/trillions? of dollars + thousand of lives and not getting any meaningful change is getting old.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 6:25 pm to
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 6:27 pm to
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I'm all for killing bad guys, but I'm tired of these half measures. Either we go with the intention of complete dominion, or we don't bother. Spending billions/trillions? of dollars + thousand of lives and not getting any meaningful change is getting old.


The only way to end the drug issue is to make possession carry such a harsh penalty that few would take that risk. Then, I doubt it gets around the courts.

Otherwise youre just switching distribution models.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 6:33 pm to
Plus you'll need more of a presence than just a few SEAL teams or Delta Force running around Sinaloa and other places. The cartels don't act without some sort of tacit support from a significant minority in those areas.

Unless you can disrupt their supply chain out of Colombia,Peru and Bolivia you'll have groups springing up to take their places. You'd have to concentrate on both the supply and demand simultaneously because if a truckload gets through, and it sells at the rate charged. You'll have a demand issue where the risk will seem worth it.

Plus you'll have to have an occupying force in some of those areas. Mexicans will not go for Yankee boots in an occupying sense. You'll create a bigger problem there.... not to mention terror attacks north of the border. Mexican cartels are middlemen anyway. They are the logistical arm of the baws in Cali, Medillen, etc who contro the overland routes to their biggest market
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 6:38 pm to
An actual war with the Cartel would be a shite show of epic proportions. These are people who play without rules and lots of innocents would be killed.

But street chemists can be anywhere and you take out the Fentanyl option, and a more dangerous alternative will pop up.

Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 6:39 pm to
Stop for a minute and think.....the XYZ Cartel shoots down some airplanes, kidnaps or murders people on our soil or both, what do you think would happen?

The country was furious after 9-11 and I dont see that it would be any different. It would be kill them all and let God sort them out, and we wouldnt be at the end of a thousands of miles long supply line to go after them,.

The cartels might have a few heavy weapons, but they ain't the Taliban. They care if they die, and die they will.

Posted by Woolfpack
Member since Jun 2021
1494 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 6:44 pm to
The carts have been basically controlling our border for many decades. There used to be things they would consider “off limits”. Namely, adding poison to the drugs.

I dont know if it was because of profits from their new partners or they just decided frick it or both.

An argument can be made that for normal NON laced drugs theyre simply meeting the demand. But, for the poisoning of 100s of thousands of our young people we need to take immediate military action.

The Fentanyl also comes from the northern border but that is an issue I believe will be resolved diplomatically.
Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 6:46 pm to
After the last show, i thought they decided to work with Billy Bob ?

Posted by Smeg
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 6:49 pm to
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Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26099 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 6:53 pm to
There's no greater demand than that for cash yet we still criminalize and prosecute bank robbery. Interesting. Almost like your sjw criminal justice advocate lied to you.
Posted by therick711
South
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 6:57 pm to
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Surprised by the blowback on this comment. He’s not suggesting we do nothing, he’s suggesting securing the border is the most effective option.


You're surprised people reject single variable thinking? People absolutely should. Both and is usually superior.
Posted by Woolfpack
Member since Jun 2021
1494 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:00 pm to
If you’ve been watching Landman, they are due for a beating anyway.

Lots of oil on that side of the border too. Let the oil companies use private military contractors and secure any area they want. Less our troops need to deal with.

Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26099 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:01 pm to
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What do the laws of economics say about this?


Subsidize what you want and tax what you DON'T. It doesn't say do nothing because people will supply it. It says tax it to the point no one is willing to. I can't think of a bigger tax then what the Trump administration is proposing.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:06 pm to
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I knew Rog would be along to side with the cartels


Then he wouldn’t be able to partake in their product
Posted by Sizzle_DAWG
Sanford Stadium
Member since Jan 2024
1743 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:14 pm to
How about offering a solution as opposed to being a naysayer?
I get it, that’s your MO, but for once get outside your comfort zone.
This post was edited on 1/22/25 at 7:15 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53829 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:15 pm to
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I knew Rog would be along to side with the cartels


Then he wouldn’t be able to partake in their product


Some people on this forum say fentanyl poisoning is not a criminal cartel problem it's a supply and demand issue and the criminal cartels are simply playing the role of suppliers.

I wonder if these same people would feel the same way if they too had felt the sting of losing a loved one to fentanyl poison that was provided by a criminal cartel? I wonder?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297191 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:55 pm to
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Subsidize what you want and tax what you DON'T.


Thats not even close to what we are discussing here.
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