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re: CONFIRMED:Broward Co. Sheriff's Employees Fired for Negligence during Parkland HS Shooting

Posted on 6/4/19 at 5:46 pm to
Posted by Thunder
Western by God Vernon Parish
Member since Mar 2006
2421 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 5:46 pm to
As a patriot I'll allow you to practice on me before you slap him in the mouth
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 5:47 pm to
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Cuff that sorry sheriff too
That's next. These two will sing that the Sheriff gave them stand-down orders.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 6:12 pm to
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He took an oath (and a paycheck) that he would serve and protect the community.


Link to oath?

While I agree if he perjured himself he should be charged. And he deserves ridicule and being ousted from L.E. but charging him for negligence is a stretch and will not hold up.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22777 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 6:17 pm to
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I'm torn here.


You shouldn't be. Indictments have come for two of those in that long line you mention.

It makes sense to be pissed if someone escapes justice, but it makes no sense to not be happy that justice might be served up to those two policeman.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 6:22 pm to
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charging him for negligence is a stretch and will not hold up.
It will hold up long enough for him to spill the beans on the Sheriff. If he's chicken-shite enough to stand idly by while gunfire rains on his students, he's chicken-shite enough to insta-flip on the Sheriff (and rightly so).

Pretty clear that the Sheriff is the target here. The prosecutor needs corroborating witnesses- now he has them.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 6:26 pm to
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It will hold up long enough for him to spill the beans on the Sheriff. If he's chicken-shite enough to stand idly by while gunfire rains on his students, he's chicken-shite enough to insta-flip on the Sheriff (and rightly so).


Ok so just so we are on the same page....

You support weak charges on someone just for the sake of putting pressure on them.

Sounds real FBIish
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 6:28 pm
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14420 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 7:08 pm to
No. There is no difference. I've been called off a " normal" call to respond to a "man with a gun" call. There is a priority put on calls that involve a gun and all other calls get bumped because of them.

If I stayed on a call when there was a "man with a gun" call, you can bet your arse that I'm gonna have a not so pleasant meeting with the Sheriff.

Be it a school, grocery store, nursing home, bank, whatever...that "man with a gun" call takes priority.
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 7:11 pm
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22096 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 7:15 pm to
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The Supreme Court has ruled that officers have no requirement to protect. I don’t see how most of these charges hold up in court. Possibly the perjury charge which is a misdemeanor.

About time they charged him, but I don’t understand how these charges are going to apply. The jury probably won’t really care in the end, and most likely send this guy away.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 7:22 pm to
Now arrest the other 4 pussies chilling outside the school and their Janos Slynt of a sheriff and publicly hang them after a few months of being constantly shamed by the media at large. I’m typically against hangings, but we need to make an example of these pussies to other cops on what will happen to them if they don’t charge into the line of fire and do their fricking job.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13322 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 7:53 pm to
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No. There is no difference. I've been called off a " normal" call to respond to a "man with a gun" call. There is a priority put on calls that involve a gun and all other calls get bumped because of them.

If I stayed on a call when there was a "man with a gun" call, you can bet your arse that I'm gonna have a not so pleasant meeting with the Sheriff.

Be it a school, grocery store, nursing home, bank, whatever...that "man with a gun" call takes priority.



You’re misunderstanding again. Someone is popping off rounds in a grocery store, and someone is popping off rounds in an elementary school. You’re going to tell me police response will be the same? You can, but I won’t believe you if you do. Nor do I think it should be.
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14420 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:02 pm to
Simultaneously? The patrol force and on duty force would be split, yes. Active shooter at a grocery? All units converge. School shooting? All units converge.

Shots fired on ANY shift results in all units responding and any off-duty deputies are responding.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:09 pm to
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this makes me uncomfortable. If we start imposing criminal liability on cops for failure to put their life on the line, you think any decent person would want to be a cop?


I do think decent folks will still be cops.

And if you're the only armed person who's job it is to protect the softest of soft targets, dam right you better be prepared to risk your life to stop a massacre. If he is afraid to confront danger, he had no business being the only line of defense for a dam school. Parkland would literally be no worse off if they didn't have an armed guard at all.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50374 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:11 pm to
Great news.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50374 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:12 pm to
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If we start imposing criminal liability on cops for failure to put their life on the line, you think any decent person would want to be a cop?


He was the school resource officer. His job is literally to protect the students at the school.
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14420 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:12 pm to
A lot of SROs are Correctional officers who graduated a POST Academy and want to get out of Corrections. Not saying they ain't up to it, but a lot look at it as being their own boss.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:17 pm to
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I do think decent folks will still be cops.


They will still be cops...but departments will take measures to protect themselves and officers.

You would see departments take on less responsibility to protect themselves.....like no officers assigned to schools.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:20 pm to
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He was the school resource officer. His job is literally to protect the students at the school.


True....but is failure at your job against the law.
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14420 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:21 pm to
It is when your job is titled "Law Enforcement".
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
6516 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:23 pm to
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is failure at your job against the law.


Can’t refuse to provide care to a sick person with a contagious disease, can’t refuse to make a cake for a gay wedding, etc.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:23 pm to
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True....but is failure at your job against the law.


If failure at your job results in multiple deaths, of course it can be against the law.
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