re: Comey Admits He Knew Democrats Financed ‘Pee’ Dossier Before FISA Warrant Signoff

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The questions raised about the Dossier are just misdirection. As to probable cause that Page was acting as an agent, the pertinent part of the Dossier was that Page visited Moscow in 2016. However, that fact was know separately from the Dossier, since FBI informant Halper had met with Page when Page came back from the Moscow meeting.

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Funny you say this, because Page was an Agent for FBI source handlers in a case against a couple of Russians in NY state not too long before this FISA request.

What a coincidence! Like, the FBI worked with a paid informant, Carter Page, to target Russian businessmen that were successfully prosecuted due to his cooperation.

Like, what a coincidence that Carter Page is then subject to a long series of FISA warrants, which he carries around like a poison pill, all the way up to the point that he's literally writing letters to the Trump campaign in an attempt to get a job as a Russia Energy policy advisor.

Which is also interesting, because several people working in the very niche area that Page claims to have experience claim they have no idea who he is.

So Carter Page, the walking profile of a USG spy (military Intel officer, 'investment banker' with no reputation, and known paid informant for the FBI in a previous case involving Russians) is the guy you think gives the FISA warrant legitimacy.

Interesting.

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Also, all is required is that the government demonstrates probable cause to believe Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power.

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That’s the thing... they didn’t have it. It was made up and they knew it.

Well said.

Tex?

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Also, all is required is that the government demonstrates probable cause to believe Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power.



That’s the thing... they didn’t have it. It was made up and they knew it.

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They knew it because Page had been a paid FBI informant against Russians espionage agents in the recent past. The FBI used Page as a Trojan horse for the FISA, and it's extremely unlikely he was unwitting to this strategy.

This means that the USG is (probably routinely) using cutouts to gather "incidental" collection on Americans as a means of bypassing the already secret court system.

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Are you saying that potentially exculpatory evidence need not be disclosed and misleading statements are acceptable? I’d like you to go on Record before you stat crawfishing.

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I'm saying that evidence material to the determination of whether the subject was acting as an agent of a foreign power has to be disclosed.

To say that in general that "potentially" exculpatory evidence must be disclosed is not correct. That evidence would only need to be disclosed to the extent it was material to the question of probable cause.

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material misrepresentations

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Woods Procedures

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Mean nothing to hacks like you.

Former FBI officials and agents with experience in FISA warrants say the affidavits for Page appear to be “material misrepresentations” and failed to properly follow so-called Woods Procedures requiring accuracy of facts by the sworn declarants. Those procedures were strengthened in 2003 by then-FBI director Robert Mueller, now the special counsel pursuing the Trump-Russia affair.

Withholding material and exculpatory evidence from the FISA applications may also have violated Page’s Fourth Amendment protections against omissions of material facts that would undermine or negate probable cause to search.

“It is illegal,” said veteran FBI agent Michael Biasello. “The affiant" -- the person swearing to the affidavit -- "cannot cherry-pick only information favorable to the case.” LINK

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Now...what about the Woods procedures? It was sorely lacking here wouldn’t you say? The court knows the procedure and if the FBI didn’t verify every unsubstantiated portion of the application would that not be an issue?

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The Woods procedures are of course applicable. You have reason to believe they were not followed here? You must have access to the unredacted FISA warrant. Please post it. I'd really like to see it.

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Your defense of the indefensible is not surprising.

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Your self-serving, misleading (euphemistically speaking) generalization is also not surprising.

Man that's just fricking beautiful.

dp