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re: Cohen guilty plea details

Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:48 am to
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48052 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:48 am to
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Trump should give Mueller 90 days to produce a collusion charge or be fired. This needs to end.


THIS /\

Hell - make him outline the crime that implicates the POTUS in 3 days or be fired.
Posted by PBW2828
Member since May 2018
92 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:48 am to
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Follow the money... Why lie?


To hide something, but why, if he did nothing wrong?

Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8520 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:49 am to
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Follow the money... Why lie?


Did any of this change any votes once they were cast? If not then I don’t give a shite.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162698 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:49 am to
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1- Cohen stated that the deal ended in Jan of 2016
- Today Cohen stated he had conversations to June

2- Cohen talked to Trump about travel to Russia. But no Trip ever took place.

The lying to congress was over when the last conversation was.

Cohen stated to congress under oath that it was Jan.... but it was June
Posted by Oddibe
Close to some, further from others
Member since Sep 2015
6733 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:49 am to
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centers around his testimony to Congress in the fall of 2017
so Mueller is charging him for lying to Congress? How many different people in the last two years are guilty of lying to Congress that HAVE NOT been charged? Didn't Commey lie Congress? What about Brennan or Clapper?
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:50 am to
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You literally can not follow the money here because no money was involved...the deal didn't happen.



Well, okay... follow where the money would have gone had the deal not fallen through. Surely that proves collusion, does it not?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48052 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:56 am to
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Under federal law, it is a crime to knowingly and willfully make materially false statements to Congress or to any branch of the federal government in connection with matters under investigation. Violators can be punished with a fine and up to five years in prison.


SO - we can see every Obama Secy heading off to prison for 5-50 years??

Poor Susan Rice.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19851 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:57 am to
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Monafort and Cohen have used lies to stall the investigation, counting on.pardons.


Keep saying this and showing the entire board you have no clue what you are talking bout!

Hint: POTUS can pardon what type of convictions?
Posted by 007tiger
kansas city
Member since Dec 2007
65 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:57 am to
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so Mueller is charging him for lying to Congress? How many different people in the last two years are guilty of lying to Congress that HAVE NOT been charged? Didn't Commey lie Congress? What about Brennan or Clapper?



quote:

John Santucci
?Verified account @Santucci

NEW - President Trump was asked about the Trump Tower Moscow project among a list of written questions by special counsel Robert Mueller, sources familiar with the president’s responses tell @ABC News. No details about his response.


And there it is... If Trump lied in his answers about the Moscow project then he's got him for Perjury.
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 9:58 am
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20931 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:57 am to
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SO - we can see every Obama Secy heading off to prison for 5-50 years??

Poor Susan Rice.

And Hillary, Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Strzok
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20931 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:58 am to
And if he didn't lie?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84476 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:59 am to
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And there it is... If Trump lied in his answers about the Moscow project then he's got him for Perjury.

Cue Bill Clinton!
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 10:05 am
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:01 am to
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And there it is... If Trump lied in his answers about the Moscow project then he's got him for Perjury.




And if he didn't lie, where is it then?
Posted by 007tiger
kansas city
Member since Dec 2007
65 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:01 am to
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Why is this a big deal? Is it because the Trump camp has vehemently denied having talks to do with Russians, yet they continued to do so until June 2016?


Two points here:

Russia knew that while Trump was saying there were no discussions, that they were actually ongoing. This is leverage that could be used for blackmail.

2nd point: The dossier was right about Cohen and the Moscow Project. It can no longer be dismissed as a complete fabrication.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19232 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:01 am to
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You probably thought the plea was going to be about something major lol


I fully expected Cohen to say he caught Trump and Putin in a hot tub with a bunch of hookers. But, no, we get this nonsense.
Posted by MisslePig
Member since Jul 2018
1148 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:02 am to
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And there it is... If Trump lied in his answers about the Moscow project then he's got him for Perjury.


Negative. Trump's written statements 100% include clauses, technicalities and covers against this.

If I had to guess, his response was something along the lines "I'm not sure when we dropped the deal, I think it was around X time, but it could of been earlier or later, I'm just not sure" but add million dollar lawyer speech to it.

His remarks today about Cohen are echoing the same sentiments.
Posted by 007tiger
kansas city
Member since Dec 2007
65 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:04 am to
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And if he didn't lie, where is it then?


Then that's in conflict with his public comments and potentially with his family's congressional testimony appearances.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84476 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:05 am to
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Then that's in conflict with his public comments and potentially with his family's congressional testimony appearances.

Aw fricking snap!
Posted by 007tiger
kansas city
Member since Dec 2007
65 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:06 am to
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Negative. Trump's written statements 100% include clauses, technicalities and covers against this.

If I had to guess, his response was something along the lines "I'm not sure when we dropped the deal, I think it was around X time, but it could of been earlier or later, I'm just not sure" but add million dollar lawyer speech to it.

His remarks today about Cohen are echoing the same sentiments


Great point. Your'e probably right.

Would like to see Don Jr's congressional testimony though. We already know he's said he expects to be indicted for lying.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19232 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:07 am to
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And there it is... If Trump lied in his answers about the Moscow project then he's got him for Perjury.


They better have something else for evidence other than Cohen's word. Cohen is a man making a deal for a reduced sentence. He will say what Mueller wants him to say. Jerome Corsi is going through the same thing.
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