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re: Cohen claims Trump instructed him to lie to congress

Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:22 am to
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:22 am to
Doesn’t matter whether I believe it. I doubt it.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59471 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:29 am to
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Doesn’t matter whether I believe it. I doubt it.


Of course it doesn’t. However, if you are going to post that trump is going to be impeached, it offers some insight into your thoughts. That’s why I asked about them.

If it can be proven Trump directed Cohen to lie, my opinion of him will change.

However, all evidence seems to make it highly unlikely trump did so. I mean, Cohen surreptitiously recorded trump about the payments to the women. Trump explicitly said any payment had to be on the up and up. Cohen STILL went public saying trump directed him to violate campaign finance laws. Liberals and cnn placing their hope in Cohen is very risky. I guess when you are holding on by a thread, anything will do.
Posted by MarkFromBuffalo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:29 am to
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Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:30 am to
Comey lied to congress
Hillary lied to congress
Strzok lied to congress

Heck Comey and Strzok did it with a smile on their face.

What were the repercussions of those lies?
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:33 am to
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However, all evidence seems to make it highly unlikely trump did so. I mean, Cohen surreptitiously recorded trump about the payments to the women. Trump explicitly said any payment had to be on the up and up. Cohen STILL went public saying trump directed him to violate campaign finance laws. Liberals and cnn placing their hope in Cohen is very risky. I guess when you are holding on by a thread, anything will do.



So, let's establish something. Do you think Trump directed Cohen to do all of the stuff for the women payments?

If not, do you realize that they have witnesses from the Trump Organization and AMI which have corroborated Cohen's story on this?

Why would he behave differently in this case?

He just this week tampered with a witness by threatening Cohen's Father in Law. What would seriously make you think he is incapable of this? Just willful blindness?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:35 am to
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Liberals and cnn placing their hope in Cohen is very risky. I guess when you are holding on by a thread, anything will do.


Especially when Mueller has more prison time as a cudgel over his head.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:38 am to
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Liberals and cnn placing their hope in Cohen is very risky. I guess when you are holding on by a thread, anything will do.


Except the story is not based on Cohen's word alone. It is based on interviews from the Trump Org and Documentary Evidence including their texts and emails.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
50379 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:39 am to
Let’s establish this from you how many times have you posted stories about how you’ve got him this time? Do you think it’s different this time?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46152 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:40 am to
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Except the story is not based on Cohen's word alone. It is based on interviews from the Trump Org and Documentary Evidence including their texts and emails.




Interesting. What's your role in the investigation since you seem to know everything?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:41 am to
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He is a liar. Period point blank!


Is Obama a liar?

Is Hillary a liar?

Is Pelosi a liar?

Please answer these questions honestly and we can move on to the next phase of the cure for your case of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:42 am to
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Except the story is not based on Cohen's word alone. It is based on interviews from the Trump Org and Documentary Evidence including their texts and emails.


Prove what you said is true.....

Hint: You can't, you weren't there, you don't know, you are simply choosing to believe the word of LIARS whose lies you want to believe.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11962 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:43 am to
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It is based on interviews from the Trump Org and Documentary Evidence including their texts and emails.


LMAO!!!! Are you that dense? It's based on an "unnamed" law enforcement source that, as far as you or me know, has ZERO credibility. So what is this story based on, you say??? GTFO of here with this bull shite.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:43 am to

Sorry, but ANYONE in Washington who accuses someone of being dishonest is a tard' level of hypocrisy that makes one hope the Zombie Apocalypse actually happens.....
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:47 am to
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Interesting. What's your role in the investigation since you seem to know everything?


Just quoting from the article:

quote:

The special counsel’s office learned about Trump’s directive for Cohen to lie to Congress through interviews with multiple witnesses from the Trump Organization and internal company emails, text messages, and a cache of other documents. Cohen then acknowledged those instructions during his interviews with that office.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46152 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:49 am to
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Just quoting from the article:


Ah, so you don't actually know and are just quoting an article from a "news" organization that has been...shall we say....less than neutral when it comes to the President, or any Republican for that matter?

Get back to me when there's actual evidence.

Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:52 am to
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Get back to me when there's actual evidence.


Ok, will do. Mueller knows all, it's only a matter a time before we do too.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7180 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:53 am to
Haven't the Dems and the Media spent 18 months telling me that Cohen isn't honest and not reliable.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:54 am to
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It's based on an "unnamed" law enforcement source


False. It's based on two.

Also, it is interesting that Cormier says that he has other sources that he didn't cite in the story.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:54 am to
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Just quoting from the article:


Have news articles ever been untrue, either purposefully or otherwise?

Truth: You choose to embrace the lies of the liars you agree with.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:56 am to
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Haven't the Dems and the Media spent 18 months telling me that Cohen isn't honest and not reliable.


I will repeat:

quote:

The special counsel’s office learned about Trump’s directive for Cohen to lie to Congress through interviews with multiple witnesses from the Trump Organization and internal company emails, text messages, and a cache of other documents. Cohen then acknowledged those instructions during his interviews with that office.
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