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CNN reporting that Trump said 10-12 years path to citizenship

Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:01 am
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:01 am
Played audio of Trump saying "something like 10-12 years" to become a citizen for DACA people.

I am not sure of the context, but WTF. Mr President you damn well know that normal green card holders have a minimum 10 year wait to become citizens IF they do EVERYTHING right. How the frick are you going to give the same path to illegal immigrants as legal ones?

I can't go for this, even with an end to chain migration. frick this.

LINK


ETA for the cliche "you can't deport them all" crowd... they should have the option to stay, but without military service or voluntarily going back to country of origin and getting in line, there should be NO PATH to citizenship.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 8:53 am
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35365 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:03 am to
What was the theme song to his campaign again?
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:06 am to
Que?
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14448 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:12 am to
I don’t understand the few that are so outraged. These people are here, you’re not deporting them. It would be political suicide. So, hypothetically, the deal is...

Dems get:
Dreamers can stay
Pathway to citizenship - walk a straight line for 10 years

Reps get:
Wall
End chain imm
End lottery imm
Overhaul on immigration focusing on merit based imm

Sounds good to me
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 1:14 am
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14448 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:17 am to
Hell, the only thing that I don’t like about it is the voting issue. Everyone knows dam well the dems don’t care about anything but turning shite blue. So turn the table. Embrace them. Do everything you can to help these people stay on the path. Red pill the shite out of them. If anybody can flip the script on their arse, it’s trump
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64979 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:25 am to
You can't deport these people. They're here. They're working legitimate jobs and many of them make significant contributions to their states, cities, and communities. We can't just get rid of these individuals by sending them back to their country of origin. Conservatives are about saving money. How much money would an operation of that size cost the taxpayer? More than it is worth IMHO.

I think it best to impose a merit based system on these Dreamers. If they have been found guilty of a felony they are deported. No questions asked. If they have been convicted of a misdemeanor within the last 3-5 years they should be given a probationary period and then have their clock start on the countdown to citizenship once that probationary period is over. Those who walk the straight and narrow for 10-15 years get their citizenship.

But we must draw a line. Once that wall is built and the border has been "secured," there must be no mercy for those who try to come here illegally. If they came over that wall the day after it was finished, and if it's found out some 20 years later that they are illegal, they're automatically deported. I don't care if they were only two when their parents took them across that border. They're gone.



Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14448 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:30 am to
Side note...

Where the hell you gonna deport them to? They aren’t Mexican citizens either. Hell, Mexico doesn’t even know they exist. You just gonna dump a buncha people into a country that they aren’t even citizens of? I know it’s the Mexican way but still lol
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14448 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:31 am to
quote:

But we must draw a line. Once that wall is built and the border has been "secured," there must be no mercy for those who try to come here illegally.


^this
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:37 am to
I think the dems are over playing their hand.

I know lots of Mexicans, legal and illegal.

If they are making money, have beer in the cooler, and a piece of pussy in their bed they don't give a frick about politics.

As long as the economy is up and they can live here without the risk of going to jail they will support Trump.

Mexicans love grabbing pussy. Mexicans love making money. Mexicans love working hard all day and drinking all drinking all night.

For every college graduate dreamer you see on tv there are 100 oil field/construction dreamers just trying to make some money and take care of their familia.

Dems are going to get fricked by the Mexicans as long as the economy is good and the ones here can keep working.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14448 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:39 am to
quote:

IllegalPete


“You gotta go back”
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 1:40 am
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:40 am to
Greyhound buses work fine.

We just put a bunch of 747's in the Boneyard in 'Zona.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141715 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:40 am to
quote:

You can't deport these people
This is incorrect.

You can deport these people in a few easy steps:

1) Locate them

2) Grab them forcefully

3) Take them to the border

4) Drop them on the other side

"They got here. They can go back. " -- Newt Gingrich
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14448 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:43 am to
quote:

I think the dems are over playing their hand. I know lots of Mexicans, legal and illegal. If they are making money, have beer in the cooler, and a piece of pussy in their bed they don't give a frick about politics. As long as the economy is up and they can live here without the risk of going to jail they will support Trump. Mexicans love grabbing pussy. Mexicans love making money. Mexicans love working hard all day and drinking all drinking all night. For every college graduate dreamer you see on tv there are 100 oil field/construction dreamers just trying to make some money and take care of their familia. Dems are going to get fricked by the Mexicans as long as the economy is good and the ones here can keep working.


This is my view as well. Other than their creepy habit of staring at women, they mostly good people lol
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14448 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:43 am to
Ok
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64979 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:50 am to
quote:

You can deport these people in a few easy steps:

1) Locate them

2) Grab them forcefully

3) Take them to the border

4) Drop them on the other side


Which is an operation that will end up costing billions of dollars and be the death knell for the ruling party who signs off on said operation.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14448 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:50 am to
quote:

I think the dems are over playing their hand


Well, this depends on which hand you’re talking about. They’ve folded about 4 or 5 of them already. You gonna need to be more specific lol
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141715 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:53 am to
quote:

Which is an operation that will end up costing billions of dollars
I'll pay my share

I'll pay even more to see it's done right
quote:

the death knell for the ruling party who signs off on said operation
totally bass-ackerds

Allowing illegal aliens to remain will be the death of any sort of Conservative movement in America.

Deporting them means the Democrats will no longer have their automatic vote replenisher
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
9894 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:54 am to
I am worried about voting rights. I say no path to citizenship but can stay as long as no felony. This was a ploy by Dems to get more votes.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14166 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:58 am to
quote:

Allowing illegal aliens to remain will be the death of any sort of Conservative movement in America. Deporting them means the Democrats will no longer have their automatic vote replenisher

If the Republicans dump the Dreamers over the boarder, the Democrats won't need any voter replenishment.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69258 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:02 am to
quote:

If the Republicans dump the Dreamers over the boarder, the Democrats won't need any voter replenishment.
Reagan and Bush supported Amnesty and mexican voters still voted heavily against them.

The idea that mexicans are voting for democrats because of immigration is a lie. They are voting for democrats because as of right now (may change in future generations) mexicans benefit from public assistance programs
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